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Subject: Re: [Fot] Crown and pinion gear break in
From: Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:47:31 +0200
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Basically the installing is the same as on Gleason, same leash values =
and such stuff.

What is different is the correction of the contact patterns.

Just do the opposite of the workshop manual in this case.

=20

Cheers

Chris

=20

Von: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>=20
Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2018 22:44
An: tr4racing@googlemail.com
Betreff: Re: AW: [Fot] Crown and pinion gear break in

=20

I noticed that they looked a little different. The others I=E2=80=99ve =
used have all been new old stock.=20

=20

Do you have the setup instructions for the Oerlikon gears?

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 10, 2018, at 3:16 PM, tr4racing@googlemail.com =

Yes, they are.

=20

>=20
Gesendet: Montag, 10. September 2018 22:10
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Crown and pinion gear break in

=20

Chris,

=20

Based purely on speculation, I assume Bastuck gears are Oerlikon. Do you =
know?  If yes, do you have the setup instructions for these gear sets?

=20

Thanks

=20

Greg

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 10, 2018, at 1:36 AM, Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =

Maybe something to know about Diffs:

=20

On Triumphs, these days are two different types of gear available:

=20

1.      Gleason gears
2.      Oerlikon gears

=20

The workshop manual is referring to Gleason gear type. If you got an =
Oerlikon type of gear (the more modern one), and you try to set it up =
with the Workshop manual, then the gear will fail.

This is because, that the contact pattern, which is shown in the manual, =
is mirrored at an Oerlikon type.

=20

So most Oerlikons die of wrong contact pattern, with the pinion too deep =
in the Crown wheel, almost touching the carrier.

=20

Cheers

Chris

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Basically the =
installing is the same as on Gleason, same leash values and such =
stuff.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What is different is the correction =
of the contact patterns.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Just do the opposite =
of the workshop manual in this case.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Von:</b> Greg Blake =
&lt;gblake58tr3@icloud.com&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 10. =
September 2018 22:44<br><b>An:</b> =
tr4racing@googlemail.com<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: AW: [Fot] Crown and =
pinion gear break in<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I noticed =
that they looked a little different. The others I=E2=80=99ve used have =
all been new old stock.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Do you have the setup instructions for =
the&nbsp;Oerlikon gears?<o:p></o:p></p><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 10, 2018, at =
3:16 PM, <a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes, they =
are.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>Von:</b> Greg Blake &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com";>gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 10. September 2018 22:10<br><b>An:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com";>tr4racing@googlemail.com</a><br>=
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Crown and pinion gear break =
in<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Based purely on speculation, I assume Bastuck gears =
are&nbsp;Oerlikon. Do you know? &nbsp;If yes, do you have the setup =
instructions for these gear sets?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Greg<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 10, 2018, at 1:36 AM, Chris =
Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>Maybe something to know about =
Diffs:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>On Triumphs, these days are two different types of gear =
available:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><ol style=3D'margin-top:0cm' =
start=3D1 type=3D1><li class=3DMsoListParagraph =
style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Gleason gears</span><o:p></o:p></li><li =
class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D'margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 =
lfo3'><span lang=3DEN-US>Oerlikon gears</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>The workshop manual is referring to =
Gleason gear type. If you got an Oerlikon type of gear (the more modern =
one), and you try to set it up with the Workshop manual, then the gear =
will fail.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>This is because, that the contact pattern, which is shown =
in the manual, is mirrored at an Oerlikon type.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US>So most Oerlikons die of wrong =
contact pattern, with the pinion too deep in the Crown wheel, almost =
touching the carrier.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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