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Subject: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 21:30:33 +0000 (UTC)
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I always used brown Permatex (old school), but hey, if it works, why change it?

Jack
 

    On Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 1:30:58 PM EDT, Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv at 
roadrunner.com> wrote:  
 
 It goes without saying that you should coat the edges with a good epoxy before 
you bonk it.JVV?From: JAMES GRAY via Fot Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:12 
AMTo: Jack Wheeler Cc: FOT Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug 
help?
Jack,

The old freeze plug was found last night under my catch tank at the battery 
tray. It didn't have much of a ding in it

so I suspect it could have been flattened more/better when it was first put in.

Last night I was able to clear stuff as required to drill a 1/2" hole in the 
firewall directly behind the plug.

I already have a length of 1/2" solid round bar, tapered/rounded at the end in 
the hole just waiting for the new plug to arrive.

The round bar runs right under the dash. I'll be able to knock it in from the 
cockpit with a 3 pounder.

The car was running better than ever when it went, compression is at 200 psi on 
all four so at the moment

I don't have any reason to believe there are other problems. No evidence at all 
of water in the oil or cylinders.

However, once the plug is replaced and running again there will be detailed 
inspections once it's back up to running temp.

jim g

On May 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:

  Hi Jim.? Consider this.? Pulling the head may give you the most correct fit, 
and also may be quicker, all things considered.? When I was racing, and had to 
pull the head at the race track, I could get it off and back on, new head 
gasket, and nuts torqued, in under an hour.? By the time you make clearance 
under the dash, and drive the plug in, possibly not aligned correctly, I'll bet 
you will have over an hour invested.? Good luck.
  ? Jack
 
PS.? have you determined what caused the freeze plug to blow out?? The one time 
I had that happen at the race track, it was the result of a major cylinder head 
failure.? You may be looking at a bigger problem than just the freeze plug.
 ? ?   On Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 8:53:42 PM EDT, Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at 
autox.team.net> wrote: ? ?   I used one of those expandable core plugs on a BMW 
2002 and left it in for the next 60,000 miles with no sign of leaks. ? Duncan
  
 
 On May 1, 2018, at 9:47 AM, William T newman <mnewman at embarqmail.com> 
wrote: ?  I've used a neoprene plug at the track to get by until I could pull 
the head.
 Bill Newman
 #44 GT6
 ? ----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
To: 'Duncan Charlton' <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>, 'fot' <fot at 
autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 01 May 2018 07:44:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
 ?  
Duncan,
 
I think that?s where I?m going next, the freeze plug is just about in line with
 
the bottom of the dash or close. The good thing is it blew the old plug 
completely out.
 
I just need to knock a new one in.
 
I?m pretty sure I can go under the dash and through with a piece of ? or even 
?? round
 
bar about 2? long which I can scrounge at work.
 
I?ll have to remove some stuff but still better than pulling the head.
 
jim
 
?   
From:?Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com>?
Sent:?Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:36 AM
To:?fot <fot at autox.team.net>; Jim Gray <toodamnfunky at comcast.net>
Subject:?Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
 
? 
Can you drill a hole through the firewall and drive it out or yank it out that 
way?
  
?  
Duncan
  
?
 ? 
  
On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Jim Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> wrote:
 
?   
FoT
  
I was wondering if anyone has a clever method of putting in a cylinder head 
freeze plug without removing the head.
  
I was instructing at our drivers school this past weekend when it blew out.
  
I may have enough room between the firewall to use a short blunt air chisel
  
but I have my doubts so if anyone has a better one please let me know.
  
Thanks as always,
  
jim g
  
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