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Subject: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
From: toodamnfunky at comcast.net (JAMES GRAY)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 09:12:49 -0600 (MDT)
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Jack,

The old freeze plug was found last night under my catch tank at the battery 
tray. It didn't have much of a ding in it

so I suspect it could have been flattened more/better when it was first put in.

Last night I was able to clear stuff as required to drill a 1/2" hole in the 
firewall directly behind the plug.

I already have a length of 1/2" solid round bar, tapered/rounded at the end in 
the hole just waiting for the new plug to arrive.

The round bar runs right under the dash. I'll be able to knock it in from the 
cockpit with a 3 pounder.

The car was running better than ever when it went, compression is at 200 psi on 
all four so at the moment

I don't have any reason to believe there are other problems. No evidence at all 
of water in the oil or cylinders.

However, once the plug is replaced and running again there will be detailed 
inspections once it's back up to running temp.

jim g

> On May 2, 2018 at 8:40 AM Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>     Hi Jim.  Consider this.  Pulling the head may give you the most correct 
> fit, and also may be quicker, all things considered.  When I was racing, and 
> had to pull the head at the race track, I could get it off and back on, new 
> head gasket, and nuts torqued, in under an hour.  By the time you make 
> clearance under the dash, and drive the plug in, possibly not aligned 
> correctly, I'll bet you will have over an hour invested.  Good luck.
> 
>     Jack
> 
>     PS.  have you determined what caused the freeze plug to blow out?  The 
> one time I had that happen at the race track, it was the result of a major 
> cylinder head failure.  You may be looking at a bigger problem than just the 
> freeze plug.
> 
> 
>     On Tuesday, May 1, 2018, 8:53:42 PM EDT, Duncan Charlton via Fot <fot at 
> autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>     I used one of those expandable core plugs on a BMW 2002 and left it in 
> for the next 60,000 miles with no sign of leaks.
> 
>     Duncan
> 
> 
>         > >         On May 1, 2018, at 9:47 AM, William T newman <mnewman at 
> embarqmail.com mailto:mnewman at embarqmail.com > wrote:
> > 
> >         I've used a neoprene plug at the track to get by until I could pull 
> > the head.
> >         Bill Newman
> >         #44 GT6
> > 
> >         ----- Original Message -----
> >         From: Jim Gray via Fot <fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at 
> > autox.team.net >
> >         To: 'Duncan Charlton' <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com 
> > mailto:duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com >, 'fot' <fot at autox.team.net 
> > mailto:fot at autox.team.net >
> >         Sent: Tue, 01 May 2018 07:44:38 -0400 (EDT)
> >         Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
> > 
> > 
> >         Duncan,
> > 
> >         I think that?s where I?m going next, the freeze plug is just about 
> > in line with
> > 
> >         the bottom of the dash or close. The good thing is it blew the old 
> > plug completely out.
> > 
> >         I just need to knock a new one in.
> > 
> >         I?m pretty sure I can go under the dash and through with a piece of 
> > ? or even ?? round
> > 
> >         bar about 2? long which I can scrounge at work.
> > 
> >         I?ll have to remove some stuff but still better than pulling the 
> > head.
> > 
> >         jim
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com 
> > mailto:duncan.charlton54 at gmail.com > 
> >         Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 5:36 AM
> >         To: fot <fot at autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net >; Jim 
> > Gray <toodamnfunky at comcast.net mailto:toodamnfunky at comcast.net >
> >         Subject: Re: [Fot] Cylinder head freeze plug help
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Can you drill a hole through the firewall and drive it out or yank 
> > it out that way?
> > 
> >          
> > 
> >         Duncan
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >             > > > 
> > >             On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Jim Gray via Fot <fot at 
> > > autox.team.net mailto:fot at autox.team.net > wrote:
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
> > >             FoT
> > > 
> > >             I was wondering if anyone has a clever method of putting in a 
> > > cylinder head freeze plug without removing the head.
> > > 
> > >             I was instructing at our drivers school this past weekend 
> > > when it blew out.
> > > 
> > >             I may have enough room between the firewall to use a short 
> > > blunt air chisel
> > > 
> > >             but I have my doubts so if anyone has a better one please let 
> > > me know.
> > > 
> > >             Thanks as always,
> > > 
> > >             jim g
> > > 
> > >              
> > > 
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