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Re: [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle

To: Diesel Performance Parts - Mark <info@dieselperformanceparts.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle
From: John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2016 11:33:34 -0400
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That hole in the flange looks like it was drilled to provide access to the
retainer bolts. But that hole is huge and looks like the point where the
sheer failure started and ended.

On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Diesel Performance Parts - Mark <
info@dieselperformanceparts.com> wrote:

> Sam,
>
>
>
> Ok good intel thanks.
>
> On mine the axle bearings always seem loose in relation to the axle and
> bearing rolling elements. I have replaced the bearings a couple of times
> and while on the lift it seems tighter. Then you run a couple of races an=
d
> it=E2=80=99s is the same amount of looseness again.  One side seems to be=
 looser
> than the other too, by hand feel no scientific measuring.
>
>
>
> Am I chicken since my 4 roll axle failure, or is this normal by  your
> standards?? I have Sommers Bros axles in another car and they seem to sta=
y
> tighter and evenly the same from left to right.
>
>
>
> Mark Craig
>
> Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
>
> 411 Allied Drive
>
> Nashville, TN 37211
>
> 866-455-7788 Phone
>
> 615-834-9923 Fax
>
>
>
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Sam Halkia=
s
> *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2016 8:42 PM
> *To:* fot@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It is a Corvair axle. Problem I see is the flange broke, not the axle. I
> suspect you had excessive run out on the flange, and the torque of the lu=
gs
> may have stressed it. Never had anything like this in 40 years. Still use
> the Corvair set up in my Vintage sixes, no issues. Good parts makes a
> better set upon you wish to upgrade, but the Corvair set up should be fin=
e,
> just make sure you magna flux and check the runout, after all they are 50
> years old!
>
>
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> Sam Halkias
>
> Halkias Performance Services
>
> 614-582-0232
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Diesel Performance Parts - Mark <
> info@dieselperformanceparts.com> wrote:
>
> That looks like the old style modified Corvair axle to me. I got one set
> on a car too, sort of makes me uneasy now=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Mark Craig
>
> Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
>
> 411 Allied Drive
>
> Nashville, TN 37211
>
> 866-455-7788 Phone
>
> 615-834-9923 Fax
>
>
>
> www.dieselperformanceparts.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net
> <fot-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *Dustin Nicholson
> *Sent:* Monday, October 03, 2016 11:41 AM
> *To:* Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>; fot@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Fot] broken axle
>
>
>
> Duncan, not a lot more to tell about the axle unless you saw something I
> didn't. It was a used competition axle that I got almost three race
> weekends out of. Unknown brand but larger diameter shaft than stock and o=
ne
> piece design. It's funny, I guess I have a better track record racing wit=
h
> stock axles than upgraded ones.
>
>
>
> The incident itself was uneventful, braking hard and down shifting for a
> slow turn after a long straight. The right rear corner dropped a couple
> inches turning me sideways then I slid off track left. I could see my whe=
el
> keep going several hundred feet. When I came to a stop I chuckled and
> thought that's just part of this sport. Easy to laugh about it when no
> people or cars where hurt... much.
>
>
>
> Photos attached.
>
>
>
> Dusty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
>
> Date: 10/3/16 9:09 AM (GMT-06:00)
>
> To: Dustin Nicholson <nicholsondustin@yahoo.com>
>
> Cc: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>, D V <explore8@outlook.com>, FOT
> list <fot@autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - tyre pressures?
>
>
>
> C=E2=80=99mon, Dusty, tell the rest of the news about the broken axle=E2=
=80=A6
>
>
>
> Duncan Charlton
>
> Elgin, Texas USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Dustin Nicholson <nicholsondustin@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I tried a couple of different pressures this weekend at MSR - Houston . M=
y
> best times were with a cold tire pressure of 28, hot was about five degre=
es
> higher.
>
>
>
> In other news, I broken an axle on turn 11 and got to watch my right rear
> tire make it all the way to turn 13! Spitfire breaking and axle? Same old
> story, new Storyteller.
>
>
>
> Dusty
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Greg Blake <gblake58tr3@icloud.com>
>
> Date: 9/28/16 8:42 PM (GMT-06:00)
>
> To: D V <explore8@outlook.com>
>
> Cc: FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>
>
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - tyre pressures?
>
>
>
> That's consistent with what I've found with the R888 pressures.
>
>
>
> I am faster with R888s but that's likely due to going from 60s to 50s.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, D V <explore8@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> I believe the website says 32-38 hot with temps 160-220.
>
>
>
> Be curious to hear what others say. I think my car is faster on the
> Hoosiers.
>
>
>
> Wish I was going to COTA with you guys in Nov.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Robert MacKenzie <list@mackenzie.aero>
> wrote:
>
> What cold tyre pressures are you using for the R888s?
>
>
>
> The car is a '62 Spitfire - 1425 Lbs with 5.5x13 wheels  The tyres have
> been shaved and heat cycled.
>
>
>
> I have heard that they work best hot in the low 40 psi range and you
> should start off at 33-35 psi.
>
>
>
> Looking for others thoughts and experiences.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
> Robert MacKenzie
>
> robert@mackenzie.aero
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Tha=
t hole in the flange looks like it was drilled to provide access to the ret=
ainer bolts. But that hole is huge and looks like the point where the sheer=
 failure started and ended.</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 7:58 AM, Diesel Performance Pa=
rts - Mark <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@dieselperformancepa=
rts.com" target=3D"_blank">info@dieselperformanceparts.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" v=
link=3D"purple"><div class=3D"m_7983976241287026739WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Sam,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans=
-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif=
;color:#1f497d">Ok good intel thanks. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On mine the axle bearings always seem loose in re=
lation to the axle and bearing rolling elements. I have replaced the bearin=
gs a couple of times and while on the lift it seems tighter. Then you run a=
 couple of races and it=E2=80=99s is the same amount of looseness again.=C2=
=A0 One side seems to be looser than the other too, by hand feel no scienti=
fic measuring. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f49=
7d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Am=
 I chicken since my 4 roll axle failure, or is this normal by=C2=A0 your st=
andards?? I have Sommers Bros axles in another car and they seem to stay ti=
ghter and evenly the same from left to right. <u></u><u></u></span></p><spa=
n class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Mark Craig<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Diesel Performance Parts, INC.<=
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olid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Fr=
om:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quo=
t;,sans-serif"> Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>S=
am Halkias<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 03, 2016 8:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> <=
a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</=
a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Fot] Fwd: FW: broken axle<u></u><u></u></span></p></=
div></div><div><div class=3D"h5"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0=
pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div></blockquote>=
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">It is a Corvair axle. Problem I see is the flange broke, n=
ot the axle. I suspect you had excessive run out on the flange, and the tor=
que of the lugs may have stressed it. Never had anything like this in 40 ye=
ars. Still use the Corvair set up in my Vintage sixes, no issues. Good part=
s makes a better set upon you wish to upgrade, but the Corvair set up shoul=
d be fine, just make sure you magna flux and check the runout, after all th=
ey are 50 years old!<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id=3D"m_798397624128702673=
9AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><=
div id=3D"m_7983976241287026739AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Sam<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sam Halkias=
=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Halkias Performan=
ce Services<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"t=
el:614-582-0232" value=3D"+16145820232" target=3D"_blank">614-582-0232</a><=
u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bo=
ttom:12.0pt"><br>On Oct 3, 2016, at 6:17 PM, Diesel Performance Parts - Mar=
k &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:info@dieselperformanceparts.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
info@dieselperformanceparts.<wbr>com</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;=
,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">That looks like the old style modified Corvair a=
xle to me. I got one set on a car too, sort of makes me uneasy now=E2=80=A6=
=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f=
497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497=
d">Mark Craig</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">D=
iesel Performance Parts, INC.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;=
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p:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"=
>From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,sans-serif"> Fot [<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </=
b>Dustin Nicholson<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 03, 2016 11:41 AM<br><b>=
To:</b> Duncan Charlton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:fo=
t@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:</=
b> Re: [Fot] broken axle</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Duncan, not a =
lot more to tell about the axle unless you saw something I didn&#39;t. It w=
as a used competition axle that I got almost three race weekends out of. Un=
known brand but larger diameter shaft than stock and one piece design. It&#=
39;s funny, I guess I have a better track record racing with stock axles th=
an upgraded ones.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The incident itself was=
 uneventful, braking hard and down shifting for a slow turn after a long st=
raight. The right rear corner dropped a couple inches turning me sideways t=
hen I slid off track left. I could see my wheel keep going several hundred =
feet. When I came to a stop I chuckled and thought that&#39;s just part of =
this sport. Easy to laugh about it when no people or cars where hurt... muc=
h.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Photos attached.<u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">Dusty<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id=
=3D"m_7983976241287026739composer_signature"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:#575757">Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE D=
evice</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=
=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
color:black">-------- Original message --------</span><u></u><u></u></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">From: Duncan Cha=
rlton &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">=
duncan.charlton54@gmail.com</a>&gt; </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Date: 10/3/16 9:09 AM (GMT-=
06:00) </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"color:black">To: Dustin Nicholson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nicholsondust=
in@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">nicholsondustin@yahoo.com</a>&gt; </span><u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:blac=
k">Cc: Greg Blake &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; target=3D"_=
blank">gblake58tr3@icloud.com</a>&gt;, D V &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:explore8@o=
utlook.com" target=3D"_blank">explore8@outlook.com</a>&gt;, FOT list &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a=
>&gt; </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span styl=
e=3D"color:black">Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - tyre pressures? </span><u>=
</u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black=
">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">C=E2=80=
=99mon, Dusty, tell the rest of the news about the broken axle=E2=80=A6<u><=
/u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Duncan Charlton<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">Elgin, Texas USA<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><block=
quote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">On Oct 3, 2016, at 7:14 AM, Dustin Nicholson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ni=
cholsondustin@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">nicholsondustin@yahoo.com</a>&gt=
; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u>=
</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">I tried a couple of different pressu=
res this weekend at MSR - Houston . My best times were with a cold tire pre=
ssure of 28, hot was about five degrees higher.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div=
><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">In other news, I broken an axle on turn 11 a=
nd got to watch my right rear tire make it all the way to turn 13! Spitfire=
 breaking and axle? Same old story, new Storyteller.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>=
</div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Dusty</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;H=
elvetica&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica=
&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,s=
ans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div id=3D"m_79839762412870=
26739composer_signature"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#575757">Sent f=
rom my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif">-------- Original message --------</span><u></u><u></u></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">From: Greg Blake &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:gblake58tr3@icloud.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:purple">gb=
lake58tr3@icloud.com</span></a>&gt;<span class=3D"m_7983976241287026739appl=
e-converted-space">=C2=A0</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&=
quot;,sans-serif">Date: 9/28/16 8:42 PM (GMT-06:00)<span class=3D"m_7983976=
241287026739apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:=
&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">To: D V &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:explore8@ou=
tlook.com" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:purple">explore8@outlook.=
com</span></a>&gt;<span class=3D"m_7983976241287026739apple-converted-space=
">=C2=A0</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"=
>Cc: FOT list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"><=
span style=3D"color:purple">fot@autox.team.net</span></a>&gt;<span class=3D=
"m_7983976241287026739apple-converted-space">=C2=A0</span></span><u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Subject: Re: [Fot] Toyo R888 - =
tyre pressures?<span class=3D"m_7983976241287026739apple-converted-space">=
=C2=A0</span></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">=
=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Th=
at&#39;s consistent with what I&#39;ve found with the R888 pressures.=C2=A0=
</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><=
u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">I am faster with R888s=
 but that&#39;s likely due to going from 60s to 50s.=C2=A0<br><br>Sent from=
 my iPhone</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=
=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><br>On Sep 28, 2016, at 2:32 PM, D V &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:explore8@outlook.com"; target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:pu=
rple">explore8@outlook.com</span></a>&gt; wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></=
div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-=
caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-=
serif">I believe the website says 32-38 hot with temps 160-220.</span><u></=
u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-=
family:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">Be curious to hear what others say=
. I think my car is faster on the Hoosiers.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-family:&quot;Helveti=
ca&quot;,sans-serif">Wish I was going to COTA with you guys in Nov.<br><br>=
Sent from my iPhone</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9.0pt;font-famil=
y:&quot;Helvetica&quot;,sans-serif"><br>On Sep 28, 2016, at 10:33 AM, Rober=
t MacKenzie &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:list@mackenzie.aero"; target=3D"_blank"><s=
pan style=3D"color:purple">list@mackenzie.aero</span></a>&gt; wrote:</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom=
:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">What cold tyre pressures are you =
using for the R888s?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-se=
rif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The =
car is a &#39;62 Spitfire - 1425 Lbs with 5.5x13 wheels=C2=A0 The tyres hav=
e been shaved and heat cycled.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif">I have heard that they work best hot in the low 40 psi range and you=
 should start off at 33-35 psi.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-=
serif">Looking for others thoughts and experiences.</span><u></u><u></u></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&=
quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,san=
s-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">=
Robert MacKenzie</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"=
><a href=3D"mailto:robert@mackenzie.aero"; target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"=
color:purple">robert@mackenzie.aero</span></a></span><u></u><u></u></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p=
 class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Cali=
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