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To: FOT <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Fot] Fwd: TR4 Block work suggestions
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Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 17:14:53 -0700
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Seems I wrote that a long time ago.

*Never be beaten by equipment.*

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dean Tetterton <tr3a58@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions
To: Steve Yott <tr4@wi.rr.com>
Cc: FOT List <fot@autox.team.net>


I do the same as Steve. Made a rod shaped the same as the slot and hammer
it in. Squeeze out inside and outside. I use the Right Stuff everywhere,
especially will seal transmission cases.

Dean T.


On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Steve Yott wrote:

For anyone who cares, what I do is cut the felt up into 1=E2=80=9D pieces, =
coat
them with Right Stuff and pack as many as I can into each side.  If done
right you can see squeeze out of gasket maker on the sides=E2=80=A6. They h=
ave all
held very well and I have done a lot of them using this method.  You will
need additional felt!

Steve Yott

*From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Bob Kramer
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:12 PM
*To:* 'John Styduhar'; 'STEPHEN BOROWSKI'
*Cc:* 'FOT List'
*Subject:* Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

OK, I=E2=80=99ll bite, what not use the Indian Head sealant? I=E2=80=99ve h=
ad good luck
with that, although I fill the very top (actually bottom) of the cap recess
with RTV.


*From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *John Styduha=
r
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 AM
*To:* STEPHEN BOROWSKI
*Cc:* FOT List
*Subject:* Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

I also have the center plug hole on the main oil galley tapped to install
an NPT adapter for the oil line from my accumulator.
Have the shop check the alignment of the mains and line hone if necessary.
Machine the center main cap to install a reinforcing strap.
Bottom tap all head stud holes.
Remove and tap the front and rear main oil galley plugs for flush-fit NPT
fittings. Have this done on the cylinder head cooling plug.
Remove the crank scroll and install a rear main seal conversion. Do not use
Indian Head Shellac on the felt seals.
Grind unnecessary casting material from the inside and outside of the
block, particularly in the cooling areas.
If needed, clean up the mating surfaces for the liner gaskets.


On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI <biznzman@pacbell.net>
wrote:
Hello All,
I disassembled my TR4 race car engine this past week. Last time I rebuilt
it was 1987. Last time I raced it was 1988. Probably had five or six race
weekends on the engine but its been sitting for almost twenty years! It is
amazing everything looks very good. Rod and Main bearings show minimal ware
and the same with the pistons and liners. G3 cam and followers including
head and valves all look good. Cam bearings look questionable...

So I plan on installing new cam bearings, Rods & Mains. Any suggestions as
to what brand and where to buy them?
I will deck the block. Any suggestions as to other machining I should do to
the block?

The crank looks fine but I haven't measured it yet. What clearances should
I run?
I do plan on balancing and polishing it.

Thanks for any input.

Steve and son Matthew
Florida TR4






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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Seems I wrote that a long time ago.<br clear=3D"all">=
</div><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature=
"><p><strong><font color=3D"#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</font></=
strong></p></div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>F=
rom: <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Dean Tetterton</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:tr3a58@verizon.net";>tr3a58@verizon.net</a>&gt;</span><br=
>Date: Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 5:41 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work su=
ggestions<br>To: Steve Yott &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4@wi.rr.com";>tr4@wi.rr.=
com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: FOT List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><br><br><div style=3D"-ms-word-wrap: break-word;">=
I do the same as Steve. Made a rod shaped the same as the slot and hammer i=
t in. Squeeze out inside and outside. I use the Right Stuff everywhere, esp=
ecially will seal transmission cases.<div><br></div><div>Dean T.</div><div>=
<br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Steve Yott wrote:=
</div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><span style=3D"text-transform:none;text=
-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;borde=
r-collapse:separate"><div lang=3D"EN-US" vlink=3D"purple" link=3D"blue"><di=
v><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,=
serif;font-size:12pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calib=
ri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">For anyone who cares, what I do is cut the fe=
lt up into 1=E2=80=9D pieces, coat them with Right Stuff and pack as many a=
s I can into each side.=C2=A0 If done right you can see squeeze out of gask=
et maker on the sides=E2=80=A6. They have all held very well and I have don=
e a lot of them using this method.=C2=A0 You will need additional felt!<u><=
/u><u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;T=
imes New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,1=
25);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></sp=
an></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman=
&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt">Steve Yott<u></u><u></u></span></div><=
div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,ser=
if;font-size:12pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,=
sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div><div style=
=3D"border-style:solid none none;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(1=
81,196,223);border-top-width:1pt"><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-fam=
ily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><b><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:Tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><span>=C2=A0</span>Fot [mailto=
:<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">fot-bounce=
s@autox.team.net</a>]<span>=C2=A0</span><b>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span><=
/b>Bob Kramer<br><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:1=
2 PM<br><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>&#39;John Styduhar&#39;; &#39;STEPHEN =
BOROWSKI&#39;<br><b>Cc:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>&#39;FOT List&#39;<br><b>Subj=
ect:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions<u></u><u></=
u></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><d=
iv style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,seri=
f;font-size:12pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,s=
ans-serif;font-size:11pt">OK, I=E2=80=99ll bite, what not use the Indian He=
ad sealant? I=E2=80=99ve had good luck with that, although I fill the very =
top (actually bottom) of the cap recess with RTV.<u></u><u></u></span></div=
><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,s=
erif;font-size:12pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibr=
i,sans-serif;font-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D=
"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size=
:12pt"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:11pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"border-style:=
solid none none;padding:3pt 0in 0in;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);borde=
r-top-width:1pt"><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><b><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma,s=
ans-serif;font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-family:Tahoma=
,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><span>=C2=A0</span>Fot [mailto:<a href=3D"mailt=
o:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net<=
/a>]<span>=C2=A0</span><b>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b>John Styduhar<=
br><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 AM<br><b>To:<=
/b><span>=C2=A0</span>STEPHEN BOROWSKI<br><b>Cc:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>FOT =
List<br><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggesti=
ons<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u=
></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">I also have the center plug hole on th=
e main oil galley tapped to install an NPT adapter for the oil line from my=
 accumulator.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in =
0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">Have =
the shop check the alignment of the mains and line hone if necessary.<u></u=
><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">Machine the center main cap to=
 install a reinforcing strap.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"m=
argin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:1=
2pt">Bottom tap all head stud holes.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font=
-size:12pt">Remove and tap the front and rear main oil galley plugs for flu=
sh-fit NPT fittings. Have this done on the cylinder head cooling plug.<u></=
u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">Remove the crank scroll and i=
nstall a rear main seal conversion. Do not use Indian Head Shellac on the f=
elt seals.<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;f=
ont-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt">Grind unnecess=
ary casting material from the inside and outside of the block, particularly=
 in the cooling areas.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"ma=
rgin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12=
pt">If needed, clean up the mating surfaces for the liner gaskets.=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><=
/div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times Ne=
w Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font=
-size:12pt">On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI &lt;<a style=
=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline" href=3D"mailto:biznzman@pacbell.n=
et" target=3D"_blank">biznzman@pacbell.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></di=
v><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times N=
ew Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white"><span style=3D"=
color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt">Hello All,<u></=
u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-fami=
ly:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white"=
><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt"=
>I disassembled my TR4 race car engine this past week. Last time I rebuilt =
it was 1987. Last time I raced it was 1988. Probably had five or six race w=
eekends=C2=A0on the engine but its been sitting for almost twenty years!=C2=
=A0It is amazing everything looks very good. Rod and Main bearings show min=
imal ware and the same with the pistons and liners. G3 cam and followers in=
cluding head and valves all look good. Cam bearings look questionable...<u>=
</u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:whit=
e"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9p=
t"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in=
 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;backgroun=
d-color:white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:9pt">So I plan on installing new cam bearings, Rods &amp; Mains. =
Any suggestions as to what brand and where to buy them?<u></u><u></u></span=
></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white"><span style=3D=
"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt">I will deck th=
e block. Any suggestions as to other machining I should do to the block?<u>=
</u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-fa=
mily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:whit=
e"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9p=
t"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in=
 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;backgroun=
d-color:white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;=
font-size:9pt">The crank looks fine but I haven&#39;t measured it yet. What=
 clearances should I run?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-s=
ize:12pt;background-color:white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Hel=
vetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt">I do plan on balancing and polishing it.<u=
></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-f=
amily:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:whi=
te"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9=
pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0i=
n 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;backgrou=
nd-color:white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif=
;font-size:9pt">Thanks for any input.<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,se=
rif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-=
family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div=
></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Ro=
man&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:white"><span style=3D"color=
:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:9pt">Steve and son Matthe=
w<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;background-color:=
white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:9pt">Florida TR4<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margi=
n:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt;=
background-color:white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:Helvetica,sa=
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t-size:12pt;background-color:white"><span style=3D"color:black;font-family:=
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