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Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions

To: "Steve Yott" <tr4@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions
From: Dean Tetterton <tr3a58@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:41:16 -0400
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I do the same as Steve. Made a rod shaped the same as the slot and =
hammer it in. Squeeze out inside and outside. I use the Right Stuff =
everywhere, especially will seal transmission cases.

Dean T.


On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Steve Yott wrote:

> For anyone who cares, what I do is cut the felt up into 1=94 pieces, =
coat them with Right Stuff and pack as many as I can into each side.  If =
done right you can see squeeze out of gasket maker on the sides=85. They =
have all held very well and I have done a lot of them using this method. =
 You will need additional felt!
> =20
> Steve Yott
> =20
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kramer
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 12:12 PM
> To: 'John Styduhar'; 'STEPHEN BOROWSKI'
> Cc: 'FOT List'
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions
> =20
> OK, I=92ll bite, what not use the Indian Head sealant? I=92ve had good =
luck with that, although I fill the very top (actually bottom) of the =
cap recess with RTV.
> =20
> =20
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John =
Styduhar
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 AM
> To: STEPHEN BOROWSKI
> Cc: FOT List
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work suggestions
> =20
> I also have the center plug hole on the main oil galley tapped to =
install an NPT adapter for the oil line from my accumulator.=20
> Have the shop check the alignment of the mains and line hone if =
necessary.
> Machine the center main cap to install a reinforcing strap.
> Bottom tap all head stud holes.
> Remove and tap the front and rear main oil galley plugs for flush-fit =
NPT fittings. Have this done on the cylinder head cooling plug.
> Remove the crank scroll and install a rear main seal conversion. Do =
not use Indian Head Shellac on the felt seals.
> Grind unnecessary casting material from the inside and outside of the =
block, particularly in the cooling areas.=20
> If needed, clean up the mating surfaces for the liner gaskets.=20
> =20
> =20
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI =
<biznzman@pacbell.net> wrote:
> Hello All,
> I disassembled my TR4 race car engine this past week. Last time I =
rebuilt it was 1987. Last time I raced it was 1988. Probably had five or =
six race weekends on the engine but its been sitting for almost twenty =
years! It is amazing everything looks very good. Rod and Main bearings =
show minimal ware and the same with the pistons and liners. G3 cam and =
followers including head and valves all look good. Cam bearings look =
questionable...
> =20
> So I plan on installing new cam bearings, Rods & Mains. Any =
suggestions as to what brand and where to buy them?
> I will deck the block. Any suggestions as to other machining I should =
do to the block?
> =20
> The crank looks fine but I haven't measured it yet. What clearances =
should I run?
> I do plan on balancing and polishing it.
> =20
> Thanks for any input.
> =20
> Steve and son Matthew
> Florida TR4
> =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
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<html><head><base href=3D"x-msg://141/"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: =
after-white-space; ">I do the same as Steve. Made a rod shaped the same =
as the slot and hammer it in. Squeeze out inside and outside. I use the =
Right Stuff everywhere, especially will seal transmission =
cases.<div><br></div><div>Dean =
T.</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:25 PM, =
Steve Yott wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><span class=3D"Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-collapse: =
separate; font-family: 'Arial Black'; font-style: normal; font-variant: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: =
normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: =
auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div =
lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div class=3D"Section1" =
style=3D"page: Section1; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">For anyone =
who cares, what I do is cut the felt up into 1=94 pieces, coat them with =
Right Stuff and pack as many as I can into each side.&nbsp; If done =
right you can see squeeze out of gasket maker on the sides=85. They have =
all held very well and I have done a lot of them using this =
method.&nbsp; You will need additional felt!<o:p></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Steve =
Yott<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div><div style=3D"border-right-style: =
none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: =
initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; =
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0in; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot =
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Bob =
Kramer<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 =
12:12 PM<br><b>To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'John Styduhar'; 'STEPHEN =
BOROWSKI'<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'FOT =
List'<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work =
suggestions<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: =
0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">OK, I=92ll =
bite, what not use the Indian Head sealant? I=92ve had good luck with =
that, although I fill the very top (actually bottom) of the cap recess =
with RTV.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"border-right-style: none; =
border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: =
initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; =
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; =
padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: =
0in; "><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: =
0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; "><b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot =
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b>On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>John =
Styduhar<br><b>Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tuesday, June 28, 2016 7:37 =
AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>STEPHEN=
 BOROWSKI<br><b>Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>FOT =
List<br><b>Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR4 Block work =
suggestions<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I also have the center =
plug hole on the main oil galley tapped to install an NPT adapter for =
the oil line from my accumulator.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">Have the shop check the alignment of the mains and line =
hone if necessary.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Machine the =
center main cap to install a reinforcing =
strap.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Bottom tap all head stud =
holes.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Remove and tap the front =
and rear main oil galley plugs for flush-fit NPT fittings. Have this =
done on the cylinder head cooling plug.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; ">Remove the crank scroll and install a rear main seal =
conversion. Do not use Indian Head Shellac on the felt =
seals.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Grind unnecessary casting =
material from the inside and outside of the block, particularly in the =
cooling areas.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">If needed, =
clean up the mating surfaces for the liner =
gaskets.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at =
4:13 PM, STEPHEN BOROWSKI &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:biznzman@pacbell.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: blue; text-decoration: underline; =
">biznzman@pacbell.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; =
background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">Hello All,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; =
background-color: white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">I disassembled my TR4 race car =
engine this past week. Last time I rebuilt it was 1987. Last time I =
raced it was 1988. Probably had five or six race weekends&nbsp;on the =
engine but its been sitting for almost twenty years!&nbsp;It is amazing =
everything looks very good. Rod and Main bearings show minimal ware and =
the same with the pistons and liners. G3 cam and followers including =
head and valves all look good. Cam bearings look =
questionable...<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; =
background-color: white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; =
background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: =
white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color: black; ">So I plan on installing new cam bearings, =
Rods &amp; Mains. Any suggestions as to what brand and where to buy =
them?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; =
background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">I will deck the block. Any suggestions as to other machining I =
should do to the block?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; =
background-color: white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; =
background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: =
white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color: black; ">The crank looks fine but I haven't measured =
it yet. What clearances should I =
run?<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; =
background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">I do plan on balancing and polishing =
it.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; =
background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; =
background-color: white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Thanks for any =
input.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; =
background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; "><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; =
background-color: white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; ">Steve and son =
Matthew<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: 0in; =
margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; background-image: initial; =
background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; =
background-clip: initial; background-color: white; "><span =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif; color: =
black; ">Florida TR4<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div =
style=3D"margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; =
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif; background-image: initial; background-attachment: =
initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; =
background-color: white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: =
Helvetica, sans-serif; color: black; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
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white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color: black; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
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font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
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white; "><span style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, =
sans-serif; color: black; =
"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin-top: =
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