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Tony,
=20
Yokos are really hard to get now.
I=92ve ordered a set of 4 for the next race at Spa but I=92m not sure if =
I get
some and they are rated =93not for highway use=94.
Really a pain with these tires. Avon has a historic type tire which has
almost the same speed as the Yokos but for about double price.
Really not sure what to do on tires if Yokos are not available anymore.
=20
Cheers
Chris
=20
Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tony Drews
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Mai 2016 08:20
An: John Hasty; fot@autox.team.net
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Tires
=20
I just ran with SVRA and while they didn't say anything about the =
Yoko's,
they were very picky about things that were non-issues in the past. =
Like me
2.5 year old SFI rated seatbelts that they only allow to run for 2 =
years.
Everyone else allows 5+ years. I've got some new FIA belts (they allow =
5
years for those) for an extra couple of bills waiting to be installed =
now.
Also spent $140 getting my Hans re-certified, no one else has ever even
looked at that. There were some other nit-picky things that just =
irritated
me to no end. I don't do this to get hassled, I do this to have fun. =
The
guy I was paddocked with has a very period correct car and they stuff =
they
wanted him to do to get their "era correct" designation was just =
ridiculous.
Gauges looked "too modern", needed to be replaced. Unbelievable. If =
they
want me to run with them they'll let me run Yoko's, but I'm not nearly =
as
inclined to go to their events now.
What we really need is the ability to go plus 1 or plus 2 and run some =
50
series tires since the selection for 15" is so dismal.
Yoko may make the choice for us, others have reported that they are =
phasing
out the A048 and the replacement tire isn't coming in 15" / 60 series.
On the other hand if everyone has to run speedsters I won't get my ass
handed to me by guys running better radials when my Speedsters go off
halfway though the race.
I've been fighting the tire battle for almost 10 years at this point, =
it's
not getting better.
Tony Drews
At 08:52 PM 5/26/2016, John Hasty wrote:
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"
I just found out that SVRA no longer approves Yokahama A048 tires. =
Seems
they have adopted a rule that any tire with a UTQG rating of over 100 is =
not
acceptable regardless of size or group classification. Since most all =
of
the other sanction clubs use the SVRA tire rules it is important to us =
all.
That leaves those of us with 15=94 rims and a 60 profile requirement =
with
only one tire that is legal, Hoosier Speedsters. This is something we
should try and get them to change. UTQG ratings brought about by Gov. =
DOT
regs is not a equal comparison of the =93stickiness=94 of tires between
manufacturers, it only relates to the comparison of compounds within any
given tire manufacturer and is not an equal comparison between different
manufactures. For example a Toyo 888 with a UTQG rating of 100 is not
comparable to a Yokahama A048 with a UTQG of 60 just because of the =
rating..
One cannot say that the Yokahama is more =93sticky=94 than the Toyo just =
because
of the UTQG ratings. The UTQG ratings of Yokahama tires only compares =
the
=93stickiness=94 between the A048 and other Yokahama tires. The process
involves a manufacturer running a few thousand miles on a test track in
Texas with what ever tire they choose as their base model, measuring the
tread wear and then testing their other compounds in the same manner. =
If
the other compound tires equal the base test tire=92s wear they are =
rated
UTQG 100, if the wear is more they are rated less than 100 or less more =
than
100. So if a manufacturer chooses a softer compound as their base tire
their performance tires end up with a higher UTQG rating. Who knows if
Yokahama and TOYO used base tires with the same compound. Based on the
performance of the Toyo tires I would say they are more or less equal to =
the
Yokahamas regardless of their UTQG ratings. [{Toyo does not offer a 205 =
60
15]Of course, every where else in the world 50 profile tires are =
allowed
which would give use a better selection, Toyo for instance and I =
understand
that Avon may also have a 205 50 15 tire. I now relinquish the soap box =
to
those of you that may want to comment=85.Cheers!
=20
John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A.
301 South York Street (zip: 28052)=20
P.O. Box 488=20
Gastonia, NC 28053-0488=20
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D'>Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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D'>Yokos are really hard to get now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I’ve ordered a set of 4 for the next race at Spa but I’m =
not sure if I get some and they are rated “not for highway =
use”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Really a pain with these tires. Avon has a historic type tire which =
has almost the same speed as the Yokos but for about double =
price.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Really not sure what to do on tires if Yokos are not available =
anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>Im Auftrag von </b>Tony =
Drews<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Freitag, 27. Mai 2016 08:20<br><b>An:</b> John =
Hasty; fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] =
Tires<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I just ran =
with SVRA and while they didn't say anything about the Yoko's, they were =
very picky about things that were non-issues in the past. Like me =
2.5 year old SFI rated seatbelts that they only allow to run for 2 =
years. Everyone else allows 5+ years. I've got some new FIA =
belts (they allow 5 years for those) for an extra couple of bills =
waiting to be installed now. Also spent $140 getting my Hans =
re-certified, no one else has ever even looked at that. There were =
some other nit-picky things that just irritated me to no end. I =
don't do this to get hassled, I do this to have fun. The guy I was =
paddocked with has a very period correct car and they stuff they wanted =
him to do to get their "era correct" designation was just =
ridiculous. Gauges looked "too modern", needed to be =
replaced. Unbelievable. If they want me to run with them =
they'll let me run Yoko's, but I'm not nearly as inclined to go to their =
events now.<br><br>What we really need is the ability to go plus 1 or =
plus 2 and run some 50 series tires since the selection for 15" is =
so dismal.<br><br>Yoko may make the choice for us, others have reported =
that they are phasing out the A048 and the replacement tire isn't coming =
in 15" / 60 series.<br><br>On the other hand if everyone has to run =
speedsters I won't get my ass handed to me by guys running better =
radials when my Speedsters go off halfway though the race.<br><br>I've =
been fighting the tire battle for almost 10 years at this point, it's =
not getting better.<br><br>Tony Drews<br><br>At 08:52 PM 5/26/2016, John =
Hasty wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Yokahama A048 tires. Seems they have adopted a rule that any =
tire with a UTQG rating of over 100 is not acceptable regardless of size =
or group classification. Since most all of the other sanction =
clubs use the SVRA tire rules it is important to us all. That =
leaves those of us with 15” rims and a 60 profile =
requirement with only one tire that is legal, Hoosier =
Speedsters. This is something we should try and get =
them to change. UTQG ratings brought about by Gov. DOT regs is not =
a equal comparison of the “stickiness” of tires between =
manufacturers, it only relates to the comparison of compounds within any =
given tire manufacturer and is not an equal comparison between different =
manufactures. For example a Toyo 888 with a UTQG rating of 100 is =
not comparable to a Yokahama A048 with a UTQG of 60 just because of the =
rating.. One cannot say that the Yokahama is more =
“sticky” than the Toyo just because of the UTQG =
ratings. The UTQG ratings of Yokahama tires only compares the =
“stickiness” between the A048 and other Yokahama =
tires. The process involves a manufacturer running a few thousand =
miles on a test track in Texas with what ever tire they choose as their =
base model, measuring the tread wear and then testing their other =
compounds in the same manner. If the other compound tires equal =
the base test tire’s wear they are rated UTQG 100, if the =
wear is more they are rated less than 100 or less more than 100. =
So if a manufacturer chooses a softer compound as their base tire their =
performance tires end up with a higher UTQG rating. Who =
knows if Yokahama and TOYO used base tires with the same compound. =
Based on the performance of the Toyo tires I would say they are more or =
less equal to the Yokahamas regardless of their UTQG ratings. [{Toyo =
does not offer a 205 60 15]Of course, every where else in the =
world 50 profile tires are allowed which would give use a better =
selection, Toyo for instance and I understand that Avon may also have a =
205 50 15 tire. I now relinquish the soap box to those of you that =
may want to comment….Cheers!<br> <br>John H. Hasty |<b> =
MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A.</b><br>301 South York Street =
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