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Chris, maybe try Pauter, or if your pockets are deeper, Carrillo. Both =
make quality parts.
Good luck.
Bill
----- Original Message -----=20
From: MadMarx=20
To: 'FOT'=20
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:24 PM
Subject: [Fot] Racing rod design
Hi Guys,
=20
After my engine blow at the last race and a rod in two pieces I =
investigated about rod design.
=20
In US forums I found an interesting opinion:
=20
H-beam rods are for low rev high torque engine (turbo, compressor)
I-beam are for medium torque engines with high revs
=20
As engineer I agree with this statement. On high revs the rod shaft =
gets bended back and forth by the inertia caused by the rotation.
I could imagine that the sharp sides of the H-beam rod will create a =
crack after a while because the stiffness for bending along the rotation =
axis smaller than with an I-beam rod.
That means to me that the fatigue resistance is smaller on an H-beam =
rod at high revs.
With high revs on a long stroke engine I mean 6000+.
=20
The manufacturer of the broken H-beam rod was Scat.
=20
I think next time I order an I-beam rod from Scat.
=20
What do you think?
=20
Cheers
Chris
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Chris, maybe try Pauter, or if your =
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deeper, Carrillo. Both make quality parts.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Good luck.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
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title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net">'FOT'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 21, 2015 =
1:24=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Fot] Racing rod =
design</DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Hi=20
Guys,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
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style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>After my engine blow at the last race and a rod in two =
pieces I=20
investigated about rod design.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>In US forums I found an interesting =
opinion:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>H-beam rods are for low rev high torque engine (turbo,=20
compressor)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>I-beam are for medium torque engines with high=20
revs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>As engineer I agree with this statement. On high revs the =
rod shaft=20
gets bended back and forth by the inertia caused by the=20
rotation.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>I could imagine that the sharp sides of the H-beam rod =
will create=20
a crack after a while because the stiffness for bending along the =
rotation=20
axis smaller than with an I-beam rod.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>That means to me that the fatigue resistance is smaller =
on an=20
H-beam rod at high revs.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>With high revs on a long stroke engine I mean=20
6000+.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>The manufacturer of the broken H-beam rod was=20
Scat.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>I think next time I order an I-beam rod from=20
Scat.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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lang=3DEN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Verdana','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>What do you think?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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FONT-SIZE: 10pt"=20
lang=3DEN-US>Cheers<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=3DEN-US>Chris<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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