Re: [Fot] Weber tuning help please

[Bill Babcock via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>]

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No, they probably wont work unless you find some way to stabilize the =
webers against the manifold. Otherwise the vibration will make leaks at =
some RPM. And if you did you=E2=80=99ll probably turn the fuel in the =
float bowls into foam. My preferred mount is the plastic adapters with =
O-rings on both sides. They use a rubber double-cone washer with cups =
over the ends for stabilizing, or sometimes flat springs like a =
bellville washer. I tweak them down until they are snug and then back =
off a turn. Using locknuts of course.=20
I don=E2=80=99t know what remflex gaskets are. The ones I use look like =
this:
http://www.ponostyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/weber.jpg

> On May 3, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> Bill,
> You were right but I don=E2=80=99t have a good solution at the moment. =
Only # 3 reacted to the carb cleaner and that suprises me a bit.
> I have the thick remflex gaskets in there. One side of the intake =
manifold on # 3 had barely any contact with the gasket.
> The remflex and the Moss gaskets have 1-11/16=E2=80=9D inside diameter =
openings at the intakes. My cannon manifolds are 1-7/16=E2=80=9D
> and the cannon=E2=80=99s don=E2=80=99t have a lot of meat for bearing =
surface around the lower area=E2=80=99s around 5 o=E2=80=99clock and 7 =
o=E2=80=99clock.
> As best I can tell though it was actually leaking on # 3 at 3 =
o=E2=80=99clock right next to the clamp bolt.
> I could actually look next to the clamp bolt and see where the gap =
was.
> I need to either find different gaskets with a smaller ID or make my =
own.
> Have you, or anybody had success at making their own intake/exhaust =
gaskets from regular gasket material ?
> jim
> =20
> =20
> =20
> From: Bill Babcock [mailto:Bill@ponostyle.com =
> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 1:21 PM
> To: Jim Gray
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Weber tuning help please
> =20
> Sounds like an air leak somewhere. Perhaps it gets overcome at full =
throttle or is worsened at those specific RPMs because of harmonics in =
the vibration of the carb. Might be a crack or flaw in the carb, but =
more likely it=E2=80=99s in the mounting, either O rings or some other =
flaw. They can be hard to detect and locate. You could use the carb =
cleaner method=E2=80=94spray a little at each joint or suspect area and =
listen for changes in engine sound. I=E2=80=99ve used the ultrasonic =
detector I use for finding leaks in surfboards to some effect, a leak =
sounds like a calliope, but there=E2=80=99s a lot of other noise to sort =
it from.=20
> =20
>> On May 3, 2015, at 8:40 AM, Jim Gray via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
>> =20
>> I just installed my webers and I=E2=80=99m running into something not =
covered in anything I=E2=80=99ve read so far.
>> At cruise speed which I do on the street, 2500  -3000 RPM my exhaust =
gas temps on # 4  are 100 plus degrees
>> over # 1and will climb to 1400 if I stay at that throttle setting. =
Under wide open throttle they equalize and seem
>> to settle in at about 1300.
>> However, I think this may be symptomatic of my other issue. When =
I=E2=80=99m tuning the idle air screws, open them up until
>> it starts to miss & so on, I can get a predictable stumble from three =
out of the four screws.
>> The screw on # 3 has no effect on the idle no matter how far I run it =
in or out.
>> Also , when I put my syncrometers on #=E2=80=99s 3 and 4 they are =
significantly different.
>> I=E2=80=99m not going to get my dyno tune before the first race in =
two weeks so I=E2=80=99m left to figure it out on my own for now.
>> Any help would be greatly appreciated,
>> Jim g
>> =20
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> Bill Babcock
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class=3D"">No, they probably wont work unless you find some way to =
stabilize the webers against the manifold. Otherwise the vibration will =
make leaks at some RPM. And if you did you=E2=80=99ll probably turn the =
fuel in the float bowls into foam. My preferred mount is the plastic =
adapters with O-rings on both sides. They use a rubber double-cone =
washer with cups over the ends for stabilizing, or sometimes flat =
springs like a bellville washer. I tweak them down until they are snug =
and then back off a turn. Using locknuts of course.&nbsp;<div class=3D"">I=
 don=E2=80=99t know what remflex gaskets are. The ones I use look like =
this:</div><div class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.ponostyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/weber.jpg"; =
class=3D"">http://www.ponostyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/weber.jpg</=
a></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On May 3, 2015, at 11:52 AM, Jim Gray &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net"; =
class=3D"">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><o:smarttagtype =
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navy;" class=3D"">Bill,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div =
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New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: =
navy;" class=3D"">You were right but I don=E2=80=99t have a good =
solution at the moment. Only # 3 reacted to the carb cleaner and that =
suprises me a bit.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: =
navy;" class=3D"">I have the thick remflex gaskets in there. One side of =
the intake manifold on # 3 had barely any contact with the gasket.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" =
class=3D"">The remflex and the Moss gaskets have 1-11/16=E2=80=9D inside =
diameter openings at the intakes. My cannon manifolds are 1-7/16=E2=80=9D<=
o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" =
class=3D"">and the cannon=E2=80=99s don=E2=80=99t have a lot of meat for =
bearing surface around the lower area=E2=80=99s around 5 o=E2=80=99clock =
and 7 o=E2=80=99clock.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: =
navy;" class=3D"">As best I can tell though it was actually leaking on # =
3 at 3 o=E2=80=99clock right next to the clamp bolt.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=3D"">I =
could actually look next to the clamp bolt and see where the gap =
was.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" color=3D"navy" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span=
 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" class=3D"">I =
need to either find different gaskets with a smaller ID or make my =
own.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
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 style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" =
class=3D"">Have you, or anybody had success at making their own =
intake/exhaust gaskets from regular gasket material ?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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class=3D"">Jim Gray</st1:personname><br class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
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class=3D"">Subject:</span></b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] Weber tuning help =
please</span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></font></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">Sounds like an air leak somewhere. =
Perhaps it gets overcome at full throttle or is worsened at those =
specific RPMs because of harmonics in the vibration of the carb. Might =
be a crack or flaw in the carb, but more likely it=E2=80=99s in the =
mounting, either O rings or some other flaw. They can be hard to detect =
and locate. You could use the carb cleaner method=E2=80=94spray a little =
at each joint or suspect area and listen for changes in engine sound. =
I=E2=80=99ve used the ultrasonic detector I use for finding leaks in =
surfboards to some effect, a leak sounds like a calliope, but there=E2=80=99=
s a lot of other noise to sort it from.&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:=
 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></font></div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" class=3D"">On May 3, 2015, at 8:40 AM,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><st1:personname w:st=3D"on" =
class=3D"">Jim Gray</st1:personname><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; style=3D"color: blue; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></font></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></font></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">I just =
installed my webers and I=E2=80=99m running into something not covered =
in anything I=E2=80=99ve read so far.<u1:p =
class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D"">At cruise speed which I do on the street, 2500&nbsp; =
-3000 RPM my exhaust gas temps on # 4 &nbsp;are 100 plus degrees<u1:p =
class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D"">over # 1and will climb to 1400 if I stay at that =
throttle setting. Under wide open throttle they equalize and seem<u1:p =
class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D"">to settle in at about 1300.<u1:p =
class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D"">However, I think this may be symptomatic of my other =
issue. When I=E2=80=99m tuning the idle air screws, open them up =
until<u1:p class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">it starts to =
miss &amp; so on, I can get a predictable stumble from three out of the =
four screws.<u1:p class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">The screw on # =
3 has no effect on the idle no matter how far I run it in or out.<u1:p =
class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D"">Also , when I put my syncrometers on #=E2=80=99s 3 =
and 4 they are significantly different.<u1:p =
class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=3D""><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Arial;" class=3D"">I=E2=80=99m not going to get my dyno tune before the =
first race in two weeks so I=E2=80=99m left to figure it out on my own =
for now.<u1:p class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">Any help would =
be greatly appreciated,<u1:p class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D""><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" class=3D"">Jim g<u1:p =
class=3D""></u1:p></span></font><o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div =
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