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Re: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?

To: "Steven Groh" <sgroh1@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?
From: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 08:56:30 -0600
No - I have a Quaife.

Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Groh [mailto:sgroh1@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 8:14 PM
To: Barr, Scott
Cc: Joe Guinan; <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?

Scott, were you running a welded rear when the axle snapped?

Steve Groh
'63 Spit

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 24, 2012, at 5:57 PM, "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
wrote:

> My Summers Bros Spitfire axle broke, too (vintage 2002-2003).  My car
> very nearly went on its head as well.  Mine broke at the taper from
> axle to the hub.
>
> Scott B.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Joe Guinan
> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:12 AM
> To: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Group 44 Spitfire rollover?
>
> Fot members,
>
> I received the following response from Mark, containing a request that

> I repost to the list.
>
> I'm somewhat familiar with the Summers Brothers Axle set-up for the
> Spitfire/GT6.  Photos I have saved on my hard drive seem to include a
> U-Joint assembly that is different than the stock Triumph unit and
> utilizing Spicer parts.  I don't have part numbers or knowledge of the

> history of what has been offered or used by others.  I've discussed
> this topic with several on this list in years past, and I am pretty
> sure there is at least one FOTer who has done some development work on

> the hubs (Chuck Gee?), and I think that one of our members actually
> sells these Summers Brothers units (Joe Siam?).
>
> I certainly don't want to open up a can of worms, and appreciate the
> fact that these attempt to supply a need for a very small market.
> However, I would be really happy to have Mark's U-Joint issue cleared
> up for us so that we know what needs to be done to make these things
> work safely.
>
>
> Joe Guinan
> Fremont, NE
>
> ***************************Original
> Message****************************************
> Joe,
>
> I bought axles from Sommers Bros in CA. Told them what I had and they
> sent me new ones I installed then and thought I was safe. WRONG.
> Basically they used stock Spitfire u joint castings with new u joints.
> They did not tell me or ask me if I wanted to use Corvair parts, how
> the heck am I supposed to know about that need? They have been doing
> this for 30 years and they are supposed to be the experts and such
right??
> Anyway the u joint casting is sort of fine but the u joints themselves

> are weak and that is what failed.
> So now I got great axles that are splined to poor strength castings
> and no way to modify or reuse them to use them again. 2000.00 down the

> tubes thanks to Sommers Bros. Not to mention the potential life damage

> and or the damage done to the car overall.
>
> I don't know how to reply to these and have them appear on the site so

> if you do please do for the sake of others so they don't have this
> issue like I did.
>
> Mark Craig
> Diesel Performance Parts, INC.
> 411 Allied Drive
> Nashville, TN 37211
> 866-455-7788 Phone
> 615-834-9923 Fax
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