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Re: [Fot] sway bars

To: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>, "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
From: "TR4Tony" <tr4.tony@virgin.net>
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 08:16:25 -0000
Hi all ..... just a little more experience on this, echoing what Kas has 
said on testing and getting it right.

Ive just fitted some deeper springs to give some extra ride height, but the 
side effect is additional stiffness which is making the car very bouncy at 
the rear .... and very hard to control on thr rough, better on smooth 
tarmac. Even my twin valve adjustable DAS9 Armstrong shocks dont seem able 
to cope ...... which may be a function of the piston size. Maybe its time to 
try the MGB type DAS 10's ? Im also running around with 100kg of sand in the 
boot to try to get the springs to settle down a little, and coating the 
leaves with PTFE to get them to move better.

If it works out ill pass on the knowledge and the settings on Beasty .... 
currently if my softer rear springs didnt have a habit of winding up and 
bending / twisting on full throttle id stick with them, but my failure rate 
is way too high to live with at the moment.

Best regards

Tony
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bill Babcock" <Billb@bnj.com>
To: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
Cc: <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>; <fot@autox.team.net>; <fubog1@aol.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars


>I know, Kas, you've seen how soft Peyote's rear suspension is. When I  was 
>setting the car up I found the softer the rear end was the better  the car 
>stuck. I think part of that is  Armstrong shocks provide so  little damping 
>control a soft spring is necessary. I tried stiffer  rear springs but it 
>made the car almost uncontrollable. The front end  would understeer while 
>the back end stepped out as if it was  oversteering. I went as soft as I 
>dared with the rear spring, you can  hit the stops by standing in the seat 
>and bouncing. Works great.
> On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:57 AM, Kas Kastner wrote:
>
>> Stiffening the rear suspension on a beam axle car is a delicate 
>> situation as you have no provision for negative camber (well, yes  you 
>> can, but tapering axle splines, bending the housing and all that  is a 
>> chore) and thus getting bite on the rear suspension is  generally  making 
>> it softer not harder which a rear bar will do.   There are a couple of 
>> fellows that have done this rear bar mod and  been very successful, but 
>> it does take a bunch of testing to get it  right. Dearching the rear 
>> springs is a start, then having the rear  bar adjustable can give a few 
>> more options in handling for various  courses.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <fubog1@aol.com>
>> To: <BillDentin@aol.com>; <lang@isis.mit.edu>; <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
>> Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] sway bars
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