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Is anyone else having trouble holding themselves back from wheying in on =
the whey cool discussion?=20
Bob Kramer
rkramer3@austin.rr.com
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From: Russ Moore=20
To: 'Bill Babcock' ; mdporter@dfn.com=20
Cc: Group44TR7@aol.com ; fot@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] gasoline comparison - ethanol impacts
Actually, around here there are many farmers who seek out the whey as =
a source of protein for their livestock. Especially for sheep producers. =
There's also the residue left after the manufacture of tofu that is =
likewise utilized.=20
=20
Russ Moore
Upstate NY
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From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] =
On Behalf Of Bill Babcock
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:00 PM
To: mdporter@dfn.com
Cc: Group44TR7@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] gasoline comparison - ethanol impacts
=20
Given that most cheese-makers have to pay to dispose of whey, that =
might be an interesting micro-source.
=20
=20
On Sep 14, 2008, at 6:27 AM, Michael Porter wrote:
Group44TR7@aol.com wrote:
=20
As energy scientists search for alternative fuels, one of=20
the challenges is finding a fuel source that provides as much energy =
per gallon as gasoline and diesel.
=20
Butanol. 95% of the fuel value of gasoline. More octane. Capable of=20
being made with a two-stage fermentation process from all sorts of =
food=20
wastes, such whey from cheese production....
Cheers.
--=20
Michael Porter
Roswell, NM
Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking =
distance....
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is anyone else having trouble holding =
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back from wheying in on the whey cool discussion? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>Bob Kramer<BR><A=20
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<A title=3Drem9@frontiernet.net =
href=3D"mailto:rem9@frontiernet.net";>Russ=20
Moore</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=3DBillb@bnj.com=20
href=3D"mailto:Billb@bnj.com";>'Bill Babcock'</A> ; <A =
title=3Dmdporter@dfn.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
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href=3D"mailto:Group44TR7@aol.com";>Group44TR7@aol.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 14, =
2008 12:10=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fot] gasoline =
comparison -=20
ethanol impacts</DIV>
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around here there are many farmers who seek out the whey as a source =
of=20
protein for their livestock. Especially for sheep producers. There=92s =
also the=20
residue left after the manufacture of tofu that is likewise utilized.=20
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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=20
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Bill=20
Babcock<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:00 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A=20
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[Fot] gasoline comparison - ethanol =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Given that most cheese-makers have to pay to =
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whey, that might be an interesting micro-source.<o:p></o:p></P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt">
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>the challenges is finding a fuel source that =
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fuel value of gasoline. More octane. Capable of <BR>being made =
with a=20
two-stage fermentation process from all sorts of food <BR>wastes, such =
whey=20
from cheese production....<BR><BR><BR><BR>Cheers.<BR><BR>--=20
<BR><BR><BR>Michael Porter<BR>Roswell, NM<BR><BR><BR>Never let anyone =
drive=20
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=
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