I think an important point is being missed here, especially by CVAR.
Bobby bought a car that was well prepared and accepted as is by more
than one vintage organization. He took the drivers school and they
immediately jumped on him to get the gearbox changed. George even
twisted my arm to come and help over the winter (4 hour drive each way)
so that Bobby could get it up to CVAR spec before he came back again.
While Bobby should be driving his car and learning how to be a safe
racer while attaining his VMC license he has to stop and tear into a
perfectly good car. Why can't this wait until something in the driveline
breaks. It will happen and whether it takes a year or three who really
should care? How long have the illegal engines been a problem. They
aren't so obvious. I'm not talking Moldex or 89's here. We have some
awfully fast FP cars too. Please don't forward this ot George. I don't
want the feedback.
Bob Kramer
Sales Manager
RDO Equipment Co.
16415 North IH 35
Pflugerville, TX 78660
512-272-4141
Fx 512-272-9365
-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces+rkramer=rdoequipment.com@autox.team.net
[mailto:fot-bounces+rkramer=rdoequipment.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 8:53 AM
To: 'EDWARD BARNARD'
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] T50 gearbox CVAR and my GT6
Ed,
Don't forget to dip the t-shirt in flameproofing. ;)
And I disagree... George isn't the "great Oz".. he's more of a pain in
the Oz. So, what you've got is the vintage race group run by a long
time SCCA member.
I'm just trying to figure out where the dividing line is between true
"vintage" and what substitutions should be allowed, and which ones
should not. I'd love to take a Ro-Spit on the track... I could probably
make a really good argument for the reliability (or economics) of the
rotary engine, 5 speed trans, and the Mazda LSD rear axle setup. I
could probably use the argument that it wouldn't leak oil so it's
inherently a better setup and should be allowed. Less work for the
clean up crew, and less interruptions of the race schedule. Hmmm...
there's my hook. I'll have to try that for next year.
Or maybe dropping a Honda Civic SOHC engine into my race Mini. Sure,
it'll look vintage.. just don't open the hood. ;) I wonder if I can
get a Honda front disc setup that will fit within the 10" rims.
Cheers,
Jim
Dallas
'76 Autocross DM Spitfire
'61 Morris Mini 1275S vintage racer
________________________________
From: EDWARD BARNARD [mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 10:07 PM
To: Jim; 'Bob'
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] T50 gearbox CVAR and my GT6
Jim: Check Kas's books; they weren't running stock axles even when the
Spit's were current. I agree with your theory. I can go to the committee
and
argue that a billet crank is installed for reliability, then take that
engine on the track and rev it higher than the guy with a stock crank.
Been
there done that! I just thought we were doing this for fun. Nobody told
me
there was so much at stake. Where were the big prize monies, pretty
girls,
and slick ads last weekend. I thought it was all for grins. There has to
be
a line somewhere. If Bobby's only advantage for pulling all that extra
weight around is just breaking less I think George can give him that.
But...the great OZ has spoken and we should respect that.
George even made a point of coming to me and telling me that when the
'39
Wetheroth midget comes to the track it has to be correct to run. In that
case you can all have a hoot as I shift my Model A three speed, pump the
hand fuel pump like a maniac down the front straight, and pull the hand
brake while making the sign of the cross going into turn one! The only
way
to make it more vintage is to delete the safety harnesses, and wear my
dad's
old Cromwell helmet and a T shirt. Oh...the roll bar will be removable
considering they weren't required when the car was current.
Ed
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