If you can twist the head of an ARP bolt with any rational torque you're a
better man than I
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From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of matt matthews
Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 2:02 PM
To: Joe Curry; 'EDWARD BARNARD'; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: flywheel bolt lube?
I can't seem to find my sheets right now but the answer to torqueing with
locktite can be obtatianed by asking locktite.
> From: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
> Reply-To: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>
> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 16:24:39 -0700
> To: "'EDWARD BARNARD'" <edwardbarnard@prodigy.net>,
> <fot@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: flywheel bolt lube?
>
> In lieu of knowing the correct spec for ARP bolts while using locktite
> instead of their lubricant, I would think that the locktite would
> accomplish sufficient resistance to the bolts backing off rather than
> risking twisting off the heads trying to over torque the bolts to an
> unconfirmed higher rating.
>
>
>
> But in the end, there is no substitute for knowing the correct specs
> before doing any tightening.
>
>
>
> Joe (C)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: EDWARD BARNARD [mailto:edwardbarnard@prodigy.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:14 PM
> To: Joe Curry; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: flywheel bolt lube?
>
>
>
> Joe: I agree with you on all but your last comment.The way a bolt
> holds in place is by torqueing it to the point that the threads
> distort and hold the bolt in tension. A harder bolt will need to be
> torqued to a higher point before the threads distort. Torqueing to the
> normal spec is actually worst than using the original bolts because
> the hardened bolt will not be held in tension. I have heard different
> figures ranging from 10 to 25% greater torque. Don't get me lying. I
> bet Mike Porter knows the figure. Thanks - Ed
>
> Joe Curry <spitlist@cox.net> wrote:
>
> My understanding is that using ARP fasteners you have 2 things working
> for you that cause different settings.
>
> 1. The fasteners are stronger and therefore will take higher torque
> settings. 2. It is highly recommended that you use the ARP thread
> compound that they provide. This is supposed to offer less resistance
> to the threads and the mating surfaces.
>
> If you use Locktite instead of the ARP thread compound, everything
> above is out the window. I agree that one should use locktite on the
> flywheel bolts but can't say what torque settings to use. My guess
> would be to use the recommended book settings and you will probably be
> OK.
>
> Joe (C)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Rocky Entriken
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 1:08 PM
> To: Bill Babcock; MJSUKEY@cs.com; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: flywheel bolt lube?
>
> Related question---
>
> I've always assumed that torque specs using Loctite were the same as
> the standard torque specs in the book.
>
> But using ARP I use different specs, usually higher.
>
> True?
>
> The only place I've used ARP so far is rod bolts. And then it was
> because my engine guy told me to -- and he gave me the torque specs.
>
> Also, ARP lubricates the bolts going in. Does it also have Loctite
> properties?
>
> --Rocky
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