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Re: How to build a spit racer??

To: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@earthlink.net>, "michael cook"
Subject: Re: How to build a spit racer??
From: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 02:48:19 -0600
What, the cable setup?

I'm given to understand the genesis was from 1st gen Volkswagen Beetles that
were raced in Germany, pre-Spitfire even.

--Rocky

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kas Kastner" <kaskas@earthlink.net>
To: "michael cook" <mlcooknj@msn.com>; "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>;
"Henry Frye" <henry@henryfrye.com>; <EPaul21988@aol.com>
Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: How to build a spit racer??


> Gee, I wonder where that came from?  You can thank Jimmy Coan for that
one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michael cook" <mlcooknj@msn.com>
> To: "Rocky Entriken" <rocky@tri.net>; "Henry Frye" <henry@henryfrye.com>;
> <EPaul21988@aol.com>
> Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: How to build a spit racer??
>
>
> > Yes, the Mark 3 has the same swing axle set-up. The "swing-spring"
didn't
> come
> > in until the Mark IV.
> >
> > Cable set-up sounds neat.  Got pictures?
> >
> > However, the de-arched springs sold by Mother Mueller did the same thing
> and
> > it was just the spring - simplicity itself.
> >
> > Mike Cook
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Rocky Entriken
> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 5:53 PM
> > To: michael cook; Henry Frye; EPaul21988@aol.com
> > Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: How to build a spit racer??
> >
> > CAMBER COMPENSATOR!
> >
> > Here I'm going to show my ignorance -- I'm a Mk. I guy, Paul's building
a
> > Mk. III. Is it the same swing-axle rear?
> >
> > If so, then YES, he must address it.
> >
> > And that under-spring thingy Triumph sold back in the '60s -- NO WAY!
> > Terrible unit. Worked fine until it broke -- and that was when it
> egg-shaped
> > the bolt hole in the bottom of the diff (where it mounts) and let all
the
> > diff fluid drain out. Sudden stop when the diff seized! Not fun.
> >
> > Mine is a very simple cable and pulley setup I've had on the car for
> nearly
> > 30 years now. Pulleys affixed to the top shock mount*. Cable ties to a
> lower
> > shock mount, runs up through the pulley, across (alongside the spring)
to
> > the other pulley and back down again. It basically pulls the whole axle
> > setup up (Spitfire gets a wedgie). Simple and virtually no-maintenance.
(*
> > 1/4-inch Grade 8 shouldered bolt drilled into the larger bolthead
there --
> > bolt shoulder becomes the pulley hub. Pulley must have a guard so the
> cable
> > does not jump off of it.)
> >
> > --Rocky
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "michael cook" <mlcooknj@msn.com>
> > To: "Henry Frye" <henry@henryfrye.com>; <EPaul21988@aol.com>
> > Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 9:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: How to build a spit racer??
> >
> >
> > > CAMBER COMPENSATOR?
> > >
> > > Dinosaur stuff. Mesozioc? Paleolithic. Certainly the pre-Kastnerian
> > period.
> > >
> > > Mike Cook
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Henry Frye
> > > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 8:14 AM
> > > To: EPaul21988@aol.com
> > > Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: How to build a spit racer??
> > >
> > > Bob, (and Travis and Evan)
> > >
> > > Rocky and Susan have laid some excellent groundwork. Interesting
> > > conversation about the rear axles, but did I miss the camber
> > compensator???
> > > Or is there some other way of sorting out that funky rear suspension?
> > >
> > > One very important thing to do before you even touch the car is you
need
> > to
> > > figure out where and with what sanctioning bodies you plan to run the
> car.
> > > Get the Spitfire specs from each, THEN plan what you need to do.
> > >
> > > For example, differences in Rocky's post and the SVRA specs are the 8
> > point
> > > roll cage is illegal and SVRA does not require 6 point belts. Every
> > > sanctioning body has a different approach to Vintage Racing, so it
pays
> to
> > > do your homework before you spend any money.
> > >
> > > Welcome to the fray, and the best of luck!

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