Jack,
I don't think anyone is claiming that it Locks or makes the Diff stronger.
It's pretty obvious for that happen you must change the the diff all
together or have the weak links in the original made from stronger materials
and adding locking unit, which you know means much more than $270.00. But
if you're looking for a better setup than a open Diff, than this would be a
option for you. As Jerry Alford has stated it is new for us in VARA and
testing and results are on the way. Steve's GT6 will definitely be putting
some torque to that unit and I can hardly wait to race against him in
Buttonwillow and get some insight. I personally love my Det. Locker, but I
setup for that "PUSH". I also race with welded Diffs, "the cheapest of the
solutions" big Push! I have checked into a clutch type unit and it's going
to be $600.00 a diff and it will be custom for each Diff. WOW 3 x $600.00!!!
Custom parts and clutches, HMMM!, not winning any money for this hobby makes
it tough to justify! I think I'm going to wait for some results and hope
they are good. I have all kinds of questions since it is metal to metal
essentially. What type of gear oil you they use? Will it make a difference
to use synthetic? Do they recommend additives? Inquiring minds want to know
and I'm sure Jerry A. and Steve S. will post results as they gather more
track time on these units! Good Luck Guys!
John Wilkins "#892 DP Triumph Spitfire"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan and Jack Brooks" <tr3a@att.net>
To: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 9:42 PM
Subject: RE: Phantom Grip LSD
> John,
>
> I can see that too, but the question I have is how does it "lock" under
higher
> loads. The only thing I can see is that perhaps the centripetal forces
are high
> enough to force the two plates further apart, thereby provide sufficient
> friction against the spider gears to keep them from rotating
independently.
> This however, is purely conjecture on my part.
>
> Jack
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net]On
> >Behalf Of John Kipping
> >Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 5:47 PM
> >To: Henry Frye; Bill Babcock
> >Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: Phantom Grip LSD
> >
> >
> >I can see exactly how it is supposed to work. The springs force the two
> >plates against the internal diff side gears, and depending on the forces
> >involved will prevent them from turning to some extent when cornering so
> >providing a "limited" amount of slip, limited in that the friction on the
> >gears depends on the strength of the springs. A very simple idea that
could
> >do with being investigated more under various driving conditions. Unlike
the
> >Quaife LSD centres (which I thought were totally indestructable) this
unit
> >won't make the diff any stronger.
> >John Kipping
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Henry Frye" <thefryes@iconn.net>
> >To: "Bill Babcock" <BillB@bnj.com>
> >Cc: <fot@autox.team.net>
> >Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:25 AM
> >Subject: RE: Phantom Grip LSD
> >
> >
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> I thought it was me! I feel much better now, I thought the exact same
> >> thing... I haven't a clue how this thing is supposed to do the job.
> >>
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> At 08:58 AM 9/12/2002 -0700, Bill Babcock wrote:
> >> >Does anyone have any idea how these things work? First, what's the
> >> >theory--I can't tell what it's supposed to do by looking at the
pictures.
> >> >Second--do they work, and how long.
> >> >
> >> >For what I see in the assembly picture, $270 looks like a lot of
money.
> >> >Two blocks with springs between them? But it'd be cheap if they worked
> >> >well and lasted.
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