Gentlemen-
Not being sexist, the guys are doing all the bitching! I have also had
a problem with lifters. In the past (about a year ago) I had a problem with
stock TR3/4/4A lifters - sizing & lack of hardness. The bad batch(es) were
pulled from the shelves & the immediate fix was to upgrade to the lightened
lifters. Now I have run into a problem with the lightened lifters - sizing.
Both times they involved parts from Moss. Both times I called & informed
them of the problem I was having. I am currently sending back the the bad
lifters & one of the good ones I had gotten. They were obviously from two
different batches (visibly different) and I managed 11 good ones out of 28.
They have none left in stock on either coast - I wiped them out. I will be
getting with their QC guy in an effort for all involved to get good product
back in stock. All of the chilled iron lifters come from Britain as it is
my understanding that the process is no longer allowed on this side of the
pond due to EPA regulations. I was told that the stock lifters are
available again and are proper size & quality. I'll know shortly as I'll be
putting them in a TR-4 street engine. I guess what I'm trying to say
is -don't just bitch -- INFORM!
Fred Hodgson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack W. Drews" <vinttr4@geneseo.net>
To: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:53 AM
Subject: Lifter hardness
> The bigger question on the subject of lifter hardness is "How do we get
> Moss's attention to this problem?
>
> Several years ago there was a rash of total engine failures because of
soft
> lifters. Then they got it "straightened out" according to their tech
> department, and "haven't had much trouble lately", and I'm quoting them
> accurately.
>
> Then a couple of months ago I got a batch of lifters that were machined
> improperly -- the bore on three of them was too deep. Now, in today's
> modern industrial world, we know that this was not just three lifters in
> their inventory of hundreds. It was at least one whole production run.
>
> I tried to get Moss to give this some attention and inspect their
> inventory. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't. They wouldn't respond to my
> calls after I told them they had the problem.
>
> Now comes the lifter hardness question again. Do you suppose this is going
> to cost Moss anything? Naahh. Do you suppose it's going to cost their
> customers anything? Oh, only $3000 to $10,000 per customer, depending on
> the state of the engine.
>
> I guess it's too much to expect a company to identify problem parts and
> inspect them to assure the required quality.
>
> uncle jack
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