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Re: Rear seal survey

To: <WEmery7451@aol.com>, <JElbe@superflow.com>, <vinttr4@geneseo.net>,
Subject: Re: Rear seal survey
From: "R. Kastner" <kaskas@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2001 07:35:17 -0700
It was my understanding that the grooves in the rear of the crank were meant
to be a thrower to retain the oil.  I went through a lot of stuff to learn
how to fit the rear seals and when I did it stopped all but a very little
weeping. Here's what I did:

1. Make up a steel shaft by grinding that fits the trapezoid seal grove.
This can be an old screwdriver (large) or a piece of cold roll steel etc. It
must be long enough to go to the bottom of the groove and be roughly the
shape of the groove.

2. Cut the felt seal material into 1" pieces and soak them in your favorite
sealing compound that is not a fast dry type.

3. Insert the pieces into the groove ,usually a couple to start with a
little more sealing goo, then insert the tool and drive the seal material
down hard with a hammer.  Keep doing this one or two pieces at a time until
there is just a little sticking out the groove, trim that with a razor blade
and it WILL seal.

You'll use almost twice as much material as the length of the groove.
Remember to hammer and hammer and hammer.
.
Kas Kastner
----- Original Message -----
From: <WEmery7451@aol.com>
To: <JElbe@superflow.com>; <vinttr4@geneseo.net>; <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Rear seal survey


> In a message dated 10/4/01 7:03:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> JElbe@superflow.com writes:
>
> << Subj:     RE: Rear seal survey
>  Date:  10/4/01 7:03:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>  From:  JElbe@superflow.com (Jim Elbe)
>  Sender:    owner-fot@autox.team.net
>  Reply-to:  JElbe@superflow.com (Jim Elbe)
>  To:    vinttr4@geneseo.net ('Jack W. Drews'), fot@autox.team.net
>
>     I am about to install one myself. No experience with them but would
also
>  like to know. The last standard one I installed only lasted 3-4 races and
>  started leaking badly. Improper installation -- incorrect end play ??
>                        Thanks,
>                              Jim Elbe
>                                   TR4 #223
>   >>
> An interesting subject.  Jack Wheeler sold me a seal retainer several
years
> ago for using (I think) a big block Chevy seal.  I bought the seal, but
never
> got around to making the conversion.
>
> I assume that everyone who is trying to install their conversion is having
a
> machinist turn the grooves off of the crankshaft?  I heard from someone
else
> that Jack showed up at the Runoffs once with a serious rear seal leak.  I
> don't know if this happened before or after his conversion.

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