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RE: A reply for MR O'Driscoll

To: Bill Babcock <BillB@bnj.com>
Subject: RE: A reply for MR O'Driscoll
From: "Kevin O'Driscoll" <ko3@columbia.edu>
Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 18:22:54 -0500 (EST)
Dear Fot, 
I wouldn't say that I was the ass on this list. In my home we were taught
to speak of women with respect, especially dead women, who contributed to
society in a significant way during wartime.  In fact my late grandmother
worked as a welder in the shipyards during WWII building the liberty
ships that saved England's ass, and I'm absolutely sure that she would
have been appalled at the disrepect Mr. Richardson showed for the
deceased. 
Sincerely Yours, 
Kevin R. O'Driscoll, Ph.D. 
 

On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Bill Babcock wrote:

> Wow. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin O'Driscoll [mailto:ko3@columbia.edu]
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:51 AM
> To: Paul Richardson
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: A reply for MR O'Driscoll
> 
> 
> 
> Well then excuse me ... from your sexist list ...
> 
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> On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Paul Richardson wrote:
> 
> > Kevin O'Driscoll opines that my WW2 anecdote on the anti G fuel metering
> > valve invented by Mrs Tilly Shilling smacks of an 'antiquated attitude.' I
> > put it on the FOT list because I thought members would appreciate a unique
> > piece of engineering history. It contains unique humour, whilst
> > exemplifying the part that a brilliant member of the fair sex played in
> > preventing the loss of our pilot's lives. Tilly Shilling also found the
> > nickname of her invention by her Rolls colleagues highly amusing - she had
> > a keen sense of humour.
> > 
> > You write, "Obviously Mrs Shilling is now posthumously remembered as the
> > engineer who won the Battle of Britain and bested the engineers at Rolls."
> > - Due to the general tone of your e-mail this could be interpreted as
> > disrespectful, sneering sarcasm. You could also have saved yourself
> further
> > embarrassment by checking your history, because the negative G problem was
> > not solved until after the Battle of Britain. Tilly Shilling, besides
> being
> > a brilliant engineer, was also a 'Lady' in the best interpretation of that
> > word. As such, she would never have interpreted any of her work as
> > bettering the Rolls engineers, who were her close colleagues.
> > 
> > I find your paragraphs on the vicissitudes and marketing ploys of the
> > London motor dealer and the Ford Motor Company on the new DB7 Aston Martin
> > have the depth and clarity of a shallow muddy puddle on a foggy day, and
> > wonder how you connect a 1999 marketing exercises with a true 60 year old
> > engineering story. You say in your last paragraph - to quote you exactly -
> > 
> > Sincerely
> > 
> > Paul 
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