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Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT

To: Louie Partida <lousailor@yahoo.com>, datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT
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New York has no operating limitations on over-25 year-old 'HISTORIC' 
registered vehicles, doesn't require emissions testing, only annual 
safety testing, but 'HISTORIC' vehicle insurance polices do have mileage 
and use case limits, some with owner-specified limits and 
insurer-pricing to match.

- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex


On 9/25/2023 11:24 AM, Louie Partida via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
> Virginia is similar, registration as "VINTAGE" or "ANTIQUE" means you 
> no longer need to pass the annual safety inspection, but limits use 
> nominally to car events, though I've never heard of strict enforcement.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 08:49:55 PM EDT, dave northrup via 
> Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Unless Iâ??m mistaken, California is unique in regulating antique cars, 
> at least 25 years old.  Are there any others?  Cars specifically 
> registered as, and treated as an antique.  As opposed to an old car 
> you still drive to work.
>
> *From:* Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net> *On 
> Behalf Of *RWM--- via Datsun-roadsters
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20 AM
> *To:* Gary McCormick <wglife@sbcglobal.net>
> *Cc:* datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT
>
> Iâ??m with Pat (removable night time LED conspicuity lamp on top-center 
> of roll hoop), and apparently, California vehicle traffic law.
>
> Nope.
>
> - Bob
>
> Office contact: +1-516-944-0900
>
>
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>     On Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters
>     <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     I haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away from this car by
>     serial number, btw), but those lights look like they're less than
>     15 inches above the ground, and since they're not red, that's
>     strike one, strike two for being illegal (in California, at least.)
>
>     Gary McCormick
>
>     San José, CA
>
>
>
>         On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
>         wrote:
>
>         I donâ??t think that adding low stop/turn lights will help at
>         all, they are too hidden to be seen by anything except another
>         low vehicle. When I redid my car I added LED light bars to the
>         back of the roll bar, much easier to see.
>
>         Peace, Pat
>
>         Pat Horne
>
>         We support Habitat for Humanity
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>         On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via
>         Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>         Very nice Sora Blue '70 2000 Roadster on BAT right now.
>
>         
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments
>         Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps
>         peeking out from under the rear bumper?
>
>         Gary McCormick
>
>         San José, CA
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    <p>New York has no operating limitations on over-25 year-old
      'HISTORIC' registered vehicles, doesn't require emissions testing,
      only annual safety testing, but 'HISTORIC' vehicle insurance
      polices do have mileage and use case limits, some with
      owner-specified limits and insurer-pricing to match. <br>
    </p>
    <p>- Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex<br>
    </p>
    <p> <br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/25/2023 11:24 AM, Louie Partida
      via Datsun-roadsters wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Virginia is similar,
          registration as "VINTAGE" or "ANTIQUE" means you no longer
          need to pass the annual safety inspection, but limits use
          nominally to car events, though I've never heard of strict
          enforcement.</div>
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          <div> On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 08:49:55 PM EDT, dave
            northrup via Datsun-roadsters
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";>&lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 wrote: </div>
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                  <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Unless
                    Iâ??m mistaken, California is unique in regulating
                    antique cars, at least 25 years old.  Are there any
                    others?  Cars specifically registered as, and
                    treated as an antique.  As opposed to an old car you
                    still drive to work. 
                  </p>
                  <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
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                        <p 
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"><b>From:</b>
                          Datsun-roadsters
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;datsun-roadsters-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>RWM--- via
                          Datsun-roadsters<br clear="none">
                          <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20
                          AM<br clear="none">
                          <b>To:</b> Gary McCormick
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:wglife@sbcglobal.net";>&lt;wglife@sbcglobal.net&gt;</a><br 
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                          <b>Cc:</b> datsun-roadsters
                          <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on
                          BAT</p>
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                    <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
                    <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Iâ??m
                      with Pat (removable night time LED conspicuity
                      lamp on top-center of roll hoop), and apparently,
                      California vehicle traffic law.</p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
                    </div>
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                      <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                        class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Nope.</p>
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                        <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">-
                          Bob</p>
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                          <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                            class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">On
                            Sep 24, 2023, at 03:08, Gary McCormick via
                            Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a shape="rect"
href="mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net"; rel="nofollow"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                              
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                            wrote:</p>
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                          <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
                            class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">I
                            haven't measured on my car (which is 14 away
                            from this car by serial number, btw), but
                            those lights look like they're less than 15
                            inches above the ground, and since they're
                            not red, that's strike one, strike two for
                            being illegal (in California, at least.)</p>
                          <div>
                            <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Gary
                              McCormick </p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">San
                              José, CA</p>
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                              <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:37 PM,
                                Pat Horne &lt;<a shape="rect"
                                  href="mailto:patintexas@icloud.com";
                                  rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">patintexas@icloud.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:</p>
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                          <blockquote
style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
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                              <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">I donâ??t think that adding low
                                stop/turn lights will help at all, they
                                are too hidden to be seen by anything
                                except another low vehicle. When I redid
                                my car I added LED light bars to the
                                back of the roll bar, much easier to
                                see. </p>
                              <div>
                                <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
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                                <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Peace, Pat</p>
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                                <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">  </p>
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                                  <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Pat Horne </p>
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                                    <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">We support Habitat for
                                      Humanity</p>
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                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"
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                                    On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary
                                    McCormick via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a
                                      shape="rect"
href="mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net"; rel="nofollow"
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                                    wrote:</p>
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                                  <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal">Very nice Sora Blue '70 2000
                                    Roadster on BAT right now. </p>
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                                    <p
class="ydpdafc5860yiv2622652670MsoNormal"><a shape="rect"
href="https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsun-2000-roadster-10/#comments";
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                                      Yea or nay on the funky (and
                                      illegal) add on amber stop lamps
                                      peeking out from under the rear
                                      bumper?</p>
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                                    <p
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