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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Registering a car as an historic vehicle in=
California comes with a usage limitation; car shows and special events only=
. I don't know about other states. <div><br></div><div><h3 style=3D"col=
or: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: border=
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dium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">21.120 Historical Vehicle and Horsel=
ess Carriage License Plates</h3><h3 class=3D"wp-block-heading" style=3D"colo=
r: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: border-=
box; line-height: 1.36; margin: 0px 0px 1rem; font-size: var(--font-size-med=
ium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;">Chapter 21 Special License Plates<br s=
tyle=3D"box-sizing: border-box;"></h3><h3 class=3D"wp-block-heading" style=3D=
"color: var(--c-dark-blue); font-family: var(--font-heading); box-sizing: bo=
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e-medium); -webkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><em style=3D"box-sizing: border-=
box;">21.120 Historical Vehicle and Horseless Carriage License Plates (CVC =C2=
=A75004)</em></h3><p style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: var(--s=
pacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; font-size: var(--fon=
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-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-adjus=
t: 100%;">Permanent special identification plates may be issued to vehicles o=
f historic value and interest. Vehicles assigned Horseless Carriage or Histo=
rical Vehicle License Plates are limited to operation or movement over the h=
ighway primarily for the purpose of historical exhibition or other similar, n=
oncommercial purposes, such as parades or historic vehicle club activities, a=
nd are subject to a fixed annual vehicle license fee (VLF) of $2. Historical=
Vehicle and Horseless Carriage License Plates are not available as personal=
ized plates.(R&TC =C2=A710753.5)</p><p style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; m=
argin-bottom: var(--spacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif;=
font-size: var(--font-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; posi=
tion: relative; caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -w=
ebkit-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><span style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; color:=
var(--c-dark-blue);">Horseless Carriage License Plates</span> are issu=
ed to two types of motor vehicles:</p><ul style=3D"font-size: 16px; box-sizi=
ng: border-box; font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; padding: 0px; margin-bo=
ttom: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); margin-left: calc(var(--spacing-unit=
-base)*2); caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit=
-text-size-adjust: 100%;"><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: va=
r(--font-size-small);">With an engine size of 16 or more cylinders manufactu=
red prior to 1965.</li><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(-=
-font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);">Manufactured in 192=
2 or before.</li></ul><p style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; margin-bottom: var=
(--spacing-unit-base); font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; font-size: var(-=
-font-size-small); line-height: 1.35; margin-top: 0px; position: relative; c=
aret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-size-a=
djust: 100%;"><span style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; color: var(--c-dark-blu=
e);">Historical Vehicle License Plates</span> are issued to motor vehic=
les or trailers that are:</p><ul style=3D"font-size: 16px; box-sizing: borde=
r-box; font-family: tt-commons, sans-serif; padding: 0px; margin-bottom: cal=
c(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2); margin-left: calc(var(--spacing-unit-base)*2)=
; caret-color: rgb(93, 108, 122); color: rgb(93, 108, 122); -webkit-text-siz=
e-adjust: 100%;"><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: var(--font-=
size-small);">Manufactured after 1922.</li><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-b=
ox; font-size: var(--font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);"=
>At least 25 years old.</li><li style=3D"box-sizing: border-box; font-size: v=
ar(--font-size-small); padding-top: var(--spacing-unit-15);">Of historic int=
erest.</li></ul><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Gary McCormick </div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=E2=80=9970 2000 SRL311-13291</div><div dir=3D"ltr">San Jos=C3=A9, CA</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 24, 2023, at 5:34 PM, dave northrup via Datsu=
n-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquo=
te></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Unless I=E2=80=99m mistaken, California is unique in r=
egulating antique cars, at least 25 years old. Are there any others?&n=
bsp; Cars specifically registered as, and treated as an antique. As op=
posed to an old car you still drive to work.
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters-bo=
unces@autox.team.net>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>RWM--- via Datsun-roadsters<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 24, 2023 8:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gary McCormick <wglife@sbcglobal.net><br>
<b>Cc:</b> datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Roadsters] '70 2000 on BAT<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m with Pat (removable night time LED conspi=
cuity lamp on top-center of roll hoop), and apparently, California vehicle t=
raffic law.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Nope.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">- Bob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Office contact: +1-516-944-0900 <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Sep 24, 2023, at 03=
:08, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <<a href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadst=
ers@autox.team.net">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">=EF=BB=BFI haven't mea=
sured on my car (which is 14 away from this car by serial number, btw), but t=
hose lights look like they're less than 15 inches above the ground, and sinc=
e they're not red, that's strike one, strike
two for being illegal (in California, at least.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary McCormick <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">San Jos=C3=A9, CA<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Sep 23, 2023, at 9:=
37 PM, Pat Horne <<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com">patintexas@icl=
oud.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFI don=E2=80=99t think that adding low stop/t=
urn lights will help at all, they are too hidden to be seen by anything exce=
pt another low vehicle. When I redid my car I added LED light bars to the ba=
ck of the roll bar, much easier to see. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Peace, Pat<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Pat Horne <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">We support Habitat for Humanity<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Sep 23, 2023, at 10:40 PM, Gary McCormick via Datsun-roadsters <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net=
</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BFVery nice Sora Blue '70 2000 Roadster on BAT=
right now. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-dat=
sun-2000-roadster-10/#comments">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1970-datsu=
n-2000-roadster-10/#comments</a><br>
Yea or nay on the funky (and illegal) add on amber stop lamps peeking out fr=
om under the rear bumper?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gary McCormick <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">San Jos=C3=A9, CA<o:p></o:p></p>
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