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Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap

To: Gary Ault <aultgc@att.net>, "boakes@gmail.com" <boakes@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap
From: Roy Haslett via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 21:17:57 +0000 (UTC)
Cc: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
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A good point was made that the later parts are or could be metric threads a=
nd my 67 1600 is SAE.=C2=A0 Would hate to have a thread disaster.

      From: Gary Ault <aultgc@att.net>
 To: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett@yahoo.com>; "boakes@gmail.com" <boakes@gmail.co=
m>=20
Cc: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap
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 Roy,
Not a clue. =C2=A0Sorry.
Gary


Sent from my mobile phone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Roy Haslett <hrhaslett@yahoo.com>=20
Date: 09/09/2015 11:38 AM (GMT-06:00)=20
To: Gary and Cindy Ault <aultgc@att.net>, boakes@gmail.com=20
Cc: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap=20



I see that 1968 Pick Ups use 13/16", do they swap with the 311's?

      From: Gary and Cindy Ault via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@auto=
x.team.net>
 To: "boakes@gmail.com" <boakes@gmail.com>=20
Cc: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap
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Bill,
No idea.
Gary
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   From: Bill Oakes via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
 To:=20
Cc: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap
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How do they compare with the 240z rears? Anything/everything swappable?

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, Gary Ault via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roads=
ters@autox.team.net> wrote:



 Ray,
Rear brake cylinders were the same on 1600s and 2000s. 1965 to 1967 cars is=
ed 13/16 cylinders, while 1967-1/2 to 1970 cars used 3/4 cylinders.=C2=A0 I=
 don't know why Nissan changed the diameter with the '67-1/2 xars, but I'm =
guessing it had something to do with the incorporation of dual brake system=
s.
Gary


Sent from my mobile phone.

-------- Original message --------
From: Roy Haslett via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>=20
Date: 09/08/2015 11:44 AM (GMT-06:00)=20
To: primodonna1@juno.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap=20

Would these fit a 67 1600? 13/16 or 3/4?

      From: primodonna1--- via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.tea=
m.net>
 To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net=20
 Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2015 3:36 PM
 Subject: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap
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The best plug and play rear brake cylinders for a 68 2000 are the stock Nis=
san ones.=C2=A0 They are still available at Nissan and come with a warranty=
.=C2=A0 New ones would probably last 15 or 20 years.=C2=A0 How much do you =
think you can save when using mismatched parts.=C2=A0PD=C2=A0=C2=A0Understo=
od, Ron. Really looking for a plug-and-play solution (if any, and there may=
 not be one).

- Bob



On 9/3/2015 5:10 PM, Ronnie Day wrote:
I'd suggest verifying the line fitting threads on anything you substitute. =
IIRC, those threads on the OE Roadster brake components=C2=A0were SAE while=
 those on the 510, Z, etc. were metric. You might need adapters or new hard=
 lines with the correct fittings.=C2=A0FWIW,Ron
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 3:24 PM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <datsun-roadsters@=
autox.team.net> wrote:

Anyone have experience with or know of a compatible/interchangeable 7/8" or=
 15/16" rear wheel cylinder?

Looking for more rear brake bias, and based on prior notes, the 13/16" does=
n't seem to move the meter.

Thanks.

-=C2=A0 Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex



On 8/31/2015 8:34 PM, Pete via Datsun-roadsters wrote:
15/16 is what the all drum 1500 and 410/411 use.=C2=A0=C2=A0They also have =
two 1-inch wheel cylinders per front wheel.=C2=A0=C2=A0Me likey disc brake =
mo bettah!=C2=A0Pete
| From: RWM via Datsun-roadstersSent: Monday, August 31, 2015 4:49 PMTo: Ro=
y Haslett; Datsun Roadster ListserverReply To: RWMSubject: Re: [Roadsters] =
Rear Brake Swap |


That seems to be the design point.=C2=A0=20

I wonder what happens if you go to 7/8" or 15/16" cylinders?






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nt-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441831181608_8495" dir=3D"ltr">A goo=
d point was made that the later parts are or could be metric threads and my=
 67 1600 is SAE.&nbsp; Would hate to have a thread disaster.<br></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441831181608_8496"><span></span></div><br>  <div id=3D"=
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e: 16px;"> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441831181608_8497" dir=3D"ltr"> <hr siz=
e=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bo=
ld;">From:</span></b> Gary Ault &lt;aultgc@att.net&gt;<br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Roy Haslett &lt;hrhaslett@yahoo.com&=
gt;; "boakes@gmail.com" &lt;boakes@gmail.com&gt; <br><b><span style=3D"font=
-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" &lt;datsun=
-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Se=
nt:</span></b> Wednesday, September 9, 2015 2:11 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"f=
ont-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap<br> =
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<div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1441831181608_8501">Roy,</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0=
_1_1441831181608_8503"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Not a clue. &nbsp;Sorr=
y.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Gary</div><div><br clear=3D"none=
"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=
=3D"yiv1553215824composer_signature">Sent from my mobile phone.</div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-------- Original message --------<br clear=
=3D"none">From: Roy Haslett &lt;hrhaslett@yahoo.com&gt; <br clear=3D"none">=
Date: 09/09/2015  11:38 AM  (GMT-06:00) <br clear=3D"none">To: Gary and Cin=
dy Ault &lt;aultgc@att.net&gt;, boakes@gmail.com <br clear=3D"none">Cc: dat=
sun-roadsters@autox.team.net <br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Re=
ar Brake Swap <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"qtdSepara=
teBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1553215824yqt5541941204" id=3D"yiv1553=
215824yqt37760"><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:=
HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;=
font-size:16px;">I see that 1968 Pick Ups use 13/16", do they swap with the=
 311's?<br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv1553215824yui_3_16_0_1_144181647713=
9_12517"><span></span></div><br clear=3D"none">  <div id=3D"yiv1553215824yu=
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ca Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div=
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font-size:16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv1553215824yui_3_16_0_1_14418164=
77139_12518"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span st=
yle=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Gary and Cindy Ault via Datsun-r=
oadsters &lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none"> <b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> "boakes@gmail.com" &lt;boakes@=
gmail.com&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Cc:</=
span></b> "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" &lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.team=
.net&gt; <br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</sp=
an></b> Tuesday, September 8, 2015 5:50 PM<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span styl=
e=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap=
<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div> <div class=3D"yiv1553215824y_msg_contain=
er"><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv1553215824"><div><div style=3D"color:#=
000;background-color:#fff;font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospa=
ce, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div><span>Bill,</span></div><div><span><br=
 clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span>No idea.</span></div><div><span><br=
 clear=3D"none"></span></div><div><span>Gary</span></div><br clear=3D"none"=
>  <div style=3D"font-family:Courier New, courier, monaco, monospace, sans-=
serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica =
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<div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><spa=
n style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Bill Oakes via Datsun-roadst=
ers &lt;datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span sty=
le=3D"font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b>  <br clear=3D"none"><b><span style=
=3D"font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" &lt=
;datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net&gt; <br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"=
font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 8, 2015 3:09 PM<br c=
lear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:=
 [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div> <div class=
=3D"yiv1553215824y_msg_container"><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv15532158=
24"><div>How do they compare with the 240z rears? Anything/everything s<spa=
n></span>wappable?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">On Tuesday, Septemb=
er 8, 2015, Gary Ault via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D=
"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"mailto:datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net";>datsun-roadsters@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv1553215824qtdSepara=
teBR"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv15532158=
24yqt6143169154" id=3D"yiv1553215824yqt61515"><blockquote class=3D"yiv15532=
15824gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pad=
ding-left:1ex;"><div>
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<div>Ray,</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Rear brake cylinders were=
 the same on 1600s and 2000s. 1965 to 1967 cars ised 13/16 cylinders, while=
 1967-1/2 to 1970 cars used 3/4 cylinders.&nbsp; I don't know why Nissan ch=
anged the diameter with the '67-1/2 xars, but I'm guessing it had something=
 to do with the incorporation of dual brake systems.</div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div>Gary</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D=
"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Sent from my mobile phone.<=
/div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">-------- Original message ------=
--<br clear=3D"none">From: Roy Haslett via Datsun-roadsters &lt;<a href=3D"=
" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <=
br clear=3D"none">Date: 09/08/2015  11:44 AM  (GMT-06:00) <br clear=3D"none=
">To: <a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">primodonna1@juno.com</a>=
, <a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.=
net</a> <br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap <br cle=
ar=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#f=
ff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Gran=
de, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Would these fit a 67 1600? 13/16 or 3/4?<br=
 clear=3D"none"><div><span></span></div><br clear=3D"none">  <div style=3D"=
font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,=
 sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helv=
etica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <=
div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span=
 style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> primodonna1--- via Datsun-roa=
dsters &lt;<a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">datsun-roadsters@au=
tox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;=
">To:</span></b> <a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">datsun-roadst=
ers@autox.team.net</a> <br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bo=
ld;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 3, 2015 3:36 PM<br clear=3D"none"=
> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Roadsters]  Rea=
r Brake Swap<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div> <div><br clear=3D"none"><div=
><div>The best plug and play rear brake cylinders for a 68 2000 are the sto=
ck Nissan ones.&nbsp; They are still available at Nissan and come with a wa=
rranty.&nbsp; New ones would probably last 15 or 20 years.&nbsp; How much d=
o you think you can save when using mismatched parts.</div><div>&nbsp;</div=
><div>PD</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;</div><div><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:xx-small;"><span style=3D"font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Understood, Ron. Re=
ally looking for a plug-and-play solution (if any, and there may not be one=
).<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><span style=3D"font-family:Trebuche=
t MS;"><span style=3D"font-family:Trebuchet MS;">- Bob<br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></span></span></span></span><br clear=
=3D"none"><div>On 9/3/2015 5:10 PM, Ronnie Day wrote:</div><blockquote><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><div>I'd suggest verifying the line fitting threads on anythin=
g you substitute. IIRC, those threads on the OE Roadster brake components&n=
bsp;were SAE while those on the 510, Z, etc. were metric. You might need ad=
apters or new hard lines with the correct fittings.</div><div>&nbsp;</div><=
div>FWIW,</div><div>Ron</div></div><div><br clear=3D"none"><div>On Thu, Sep=
 3, 2015 at 3:24 PM, RWM via Datsun-roadsters <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect">datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><blockquote style=3D"border-left:#ccc 1p=
x solid;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;"><div><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:xx-small;"><span style=3D"font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Anyone have exp=
erience with or know of a compatible/interchangeable <span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Trebuchet MS;">7/8" or 1<span style=3D"font-family:Trebuchet MS;">5/16=
" rear wheel cylinder?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><span style=3D"=
font-family:Trebuchet MS;">Looking for more r<span style=3D"font-family:Tre=
buchet MS;">ear brake bias, and based on prior notes, the 13/16" doesn't se=
em to move the meter.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></span></span></=
span></span></span></span><span>Thanks.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
"><span style=3D"font-family:Trebuchet MS;">-&nbsp; <span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Trebuchet MS;">Bob Mann, '68 2000 Solex<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"></span></span></span><div><div><br clear=3D"none">=
<div>On 8/31/2015 8:34 PM, Pete via Datsun-roadsters wrote:</div></div></di=
v><blockquote><div><div><div style=3D"background-color:#ffffff;width:100%;f=
ont-family:Calibri, 'SlatePro', sans-serif, sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">15/1=
6 is what the all drum 1500 and 410/411 use.&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"backg=
round-color:#ffffff;width:100%;font-family:Calibri, 'SlatePro', sans-serif,=
 sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"background-color:#fff=
fff;width:100%;font-family:Calibri, 'SlatePro', sans-serif, sans-serif;colo=
r:#1f497d;">They also have two 1-inch wheel cylinders per front wheel.&nbsp=
;</div><div style=3D"background-color:#ffffff;width:100%;font-family:Calibr=
i, 'SlatePro', sans-serif, sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">&nbsp;</div><div styl=
e=3D"background-color:#ffffff;width:100%;font-family:Calibri, 'SlatePro', s=
ans-serif, sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">Me likey disc brake mo bettah!</div><=
div style=3D"background-color:#ffffff;width:100%;font-family:Calibri, 'Slat=
ePro', sans-serif, sans-serif;color:#1f497d;">&nbsp;</div><div style=3D"bac=
kground-color:#ffffff;font-family:Calibri, 'SlatePro', sans-serif, sans-ser=
if;color:#1f497d;">Pete</div><table style=3D"background-color:white;border-=
spacing:0px;" width=3D"100%"><tbody><tr><td colspan=3D"2" rowspan=3D"1" sty=
le=3D"background-color:#ffffff;"><div><div><strong>From: </strong>RWM via D=
atsun-roadsters</div><div><strong>Sent: </strong>Monday, August 31, 2015 4:=
49 PM</div><div><strong>To: </strong>Roy Haslett; Datsun Roadster Listserve=
r</div><div><strong>Reply To: </strong>RWM</div><div><strong>Subject: </str=
ong>Re: [Roadsters] Rear Brake Swap</div></div></td></tr></tbody></table><b=
r clear=3D"none"><div style=3D"background-color:#ffffff;">That seems to be =
the design point.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">I wonder what=
 happens if you go to 7/8" or 15/16" cylinders?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></b=
lockquote></div>

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