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Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else?

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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else?
From: "dave" <daveandlindab@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 23:57:09 -0400
The only thing I could think would spontaniously re-engage the starter is
the switch or the a short in the starter harness.  Someone mentioned
somewhere, I forget, the  gear reduction is a bit different from the
originalBendix type.  The gear is pushed out to engage the flywheel, them it
starts spinning after it's fully extended.

We shall see, I'm sure the problem will be found.

Dave Brisco
ECR


-----Original Message-----
From: E Scanlon [mailto:escanlon@wa-net.com]
e?


Good point, but why would he allow the engine to idle both times with the
"high pitch whirling sound" that it was making prior to burning up the
starter?.  Or phrased a different way, why would he note a "different" sound

upon returning to the car if the starter never disengaged?

Just my 2"

Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else?


>  Normally once an engine is up to idle speed, the solenoid on a
> starter will not get the starter engaged to the flywheel again.  My
> guess is the starter never let go of the flywheel.  The windings won't
> start to burn for a few miles, depending on the engine speed.  (BTDT!)
>  Or maybe the switch isn't returning to the ON position, keeping the
> solenoid engaged?
>
> Paul
> Ohio
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> I can't claim a lot of mechanical expertise, but it seems as though
> you already HAVE diagnosed the problem, but you haven't mentioned it.
>
> If' I read your post correctly (albeit edited above), the starter
> seems to ENGAGE WHILE the engine is running.  That doesn't sound as
> though the solenoid isn't disengaging from the initial start, but
> rather that it RE-engages AFTER the car has been running a while.
>
> Which can be caused by a short in the starter circuit that is
> actuating
> the
> solenoid and causing the starter to engage... or if memory serves right, a
> weak return spring on the starter gear with the same results.  And if I've
> mis-phrased it, I hope others can explain it better.
>
> Thoughts?
> E
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