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Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else?

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Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else?
From: Pete Peters <ppeters914@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:42:54 +0000 (UTC)
Why the strong anti-gear reduction starter comment, Gary? Quite a few folks 
running them without issue. 

I'm wondering if the new headers are overheating the starter. 

Why did you replace the original starter? 

Pete 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "oliver" <sumton@sbcglobal.net> 
To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 5:14:25 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? 

i wouldn't put in another starter yet. i don't think its a gear reduction vs 
standard starter issue. could it be a short? 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary and Cindy Ault" <aultgc@att.net> 
To: "Ritchie Labate" <rlabate@sbcglobal.net>; 
<datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:44 PM 
Subject: Re: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? 

Forget the gear-reduction starters and put a real starter in the car. A stock 
starter cranks my '66 1600/2000 at 10 below after sitting outside overnight, so 
I see no reason to use anything else. I have a gear-reduction starter (almost 
new) I took out of my '67-1/2 2000. I consider it to be junk, but I am willing 
to sell it to anyone who really wants one. 

Gary 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ritchie Labate" <rlabate@sbcglobal.net 
To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net 
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 5:45 PM 
Subject: [Roadsters] Smoking/failing starter or something else? 

I need help with my '68 2000. About a year ago, I replaced the original starter 
with the recommended Nissan forklift gear-reduction type as posted on our wiki 
section. Worked fine for about 6 trips. Installed new headers, leaving the 
shop, 10 minutes later, I hear a high pitch whirling sound, then smoke from 
under the hood, I shut it down. Was told by a mechanic its the starter. I 
replaced it with another forklift starter, drove it maybe a dozen more times. 

Last weekend, started up in the garage, idled for 10 minutes when I went 
inside, came back, heard the whirling sound, then smoking. Immediately shut it 
down, looked underneath, saw smoke coming from starter, not able to start it 
again. What the heck?? Mechanic said maybe solenoid, not disengaging flywheel, 
and burning up the solder inside. It did smell like an electrical fire. 

Could it be anything else? Ignition system? Why does it appear to work a few 
times than fails? I'm hesitant to go ahead and throw in this new starter at 
this point. Should I take it to an electrical specialist to diagnose first? 

Thanks! 

Ritch ____________ 
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