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Re: Light trucks (OT)

To: "Hall, Phillip" <Phillip.B.Hall@MSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject: Re: Light trucks (OT)
From: Gary McCormick <svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 12:20:49 -0800
So, it's not the fact that they are front-drivers, it's the fact that they may 
just be
run-of-the-mill-transport type vehicles that puts them in the junkyard. Let's 
keep our
causal relationships straight, here.

Gary McCormick
San Jose, CA

"Hall, Phillip" wrote:

> Did not mean to upset you guys.  By throw away, I mean that the car will be
> in the junk yard at the end of its useful life - not because of initial
> quality.  Be it 150K or 250K.  The body will be straight, the interior still
> functional, but mechanicals worn out.  My favorite JY has acres and acres of
> them - perfectly straight front drive cars/mini vans that just needs motor
> work or trans to be a good car.  The trucks/rear drivers (BMW, Volvo...)
> SUVs are all totals and scavenged of every good part.  Marc pointed out cars
> that there are front drivers that are not throw away - very correct!  These
> cars are loved enough to keep them running.  In fact, I love the new Mini
> even if it is front drive.  The basic 4-door sedan/mini van is not loved or
> even liked when they get older - people don't see spending the money on
> them.  People can still see utility in a truck/BMW etc even after several
> rebuilds - it still has value.
>
> So, front drivers are fine, but most have a very finite life span.  Not like
> our loved Roadsters we keep rebuilding, rebuilding.........
>
> Phil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary McCormick [mailto:svgkm@halley.ca.essd.northgrum.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:11 PM
> To: Hall, Phillip
> Cc: Roadster List
> Subject: Re: Light trucks (OT)
>
> "Hall, Phillip" wrote:
>
> > <snip>My wife likes 4 door sedans.  They are front drivers
>
> Not all of them, hell, not even most of them.
>
> >
> > and no matter how much you spend on one, they are throw away cars.  Nobody
> > wants a front driver with 150,000 plus miles on it.  They gravitate to the
> > junk yard very quickly after this many miles.
>
> WADR, Phillip, but that's horses#*t - my wife's '84 Toyota Corolla went
> nearly a quarter
> of a million miles virtually trouble-free (OK, I did replace the clutch,
> once, at about
> 210,000 miles) and the only reason we moved on from there was that as the
> family grew we
> needed more room (VW Passat Wagon - front-driver with excellent
> road-handling, best value
> on the market in it's size range)
>
> > <snip>
> >
> > Phil
> > SEROC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: snyler [mailto:marc@animalfirm.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:25 AM
> > To: Roadster List
> > Subject: Light trucks (OT)
> >
> >      For the first time, over 50% of the new vehicles sold in the US were
> > light trucks as opposed to cars (Pickups, minivans, SUVs) Do over 50% of
> > the population really need a truck-based vehicle, or are some of us being
> > sold a bill of goods.  I see a lot of longbed-crew-cab-duallie super duty
> > 4x4 behemoths that have never seen a puddle, much less a load of gravel.
> > I guess they hold a lot of groceries.  I can get over 10 bags of
> > groceries in the roadster when the top is up, and it's not going to roll
> > if I swerve to avoid that puddle.
> >      Some folks need a big hauler/towing vehicle, but many, I suspect are
> > just pretending to be cowboys (and cowgirls)
> >
> > -Marc T.
> > '70 1600
> > '93 Escort wagon (all you really *need *for a daily driver, will carry
> > engine blocks, trannies)
> > '88 Dodge 318 pickup (shortbed)  Drive only when needed (trips to dump,
> > towing)
> > '65 Datsun 320  When this is restored, bye-bye Dodge :^)

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