Hi friends,
Interchanging a body or a ID plate, that's the way stolen Nissan
Patrol and Pathfinder have been sold over here 10 years ago.
They bought a a frame with title from the junkyard and "abracadabra" a
VIN number from 1980 with the latest body evolution of 1995 and on.
A professional buyer immediatly see what's going on, just like some of
you, identifiying a roadster just by having a back & side view and a
look at the engine comp.
Maybe the body is from a stolen roadster? Just my 2 belgian francs!
Chris-The Belgian Roadster
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Von: "sidney raper" <spl310@hotmail.com>
An: <andycost@att.net>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2001 16:40
Betreff: Re: Mystery Roadster back on eBay
> Here is the deal as I suspect it went down:
>
> I sold a 1967.5 parts car for a paltry sum to some south florida
guys. They
> had another roadster without a title. 5 minutes and a screwdriver
later,
> they swapped the ID tags, and the previously untitled roadster
magically
> transformed from a 65 1500(? well it looks like it is mostly that
anyway) to
> a 67.5 1600 with 1500 appointments. I do not believe that this is a
case of
> a duplicate title - the ID tag on the car is from the 67.5 that I
sold as
> well.
>
> When I sold the parts car, I signed the title over to the new
owners. It
> does not look like they transferred the title - which in and of
itself is
> illegal in some states but is common practice.
>
> Sidney Raper
> 1964 1500
> 1967 SRL311 00060
> 1967 SRL311 00076
> Jacksonville Florida
> http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html
>
>
>
>
> >From: andycost@att.net
> >Reply-To: andycost@att.net
> >To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: Mystery Roadster back on eBay
> >Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:03:44 +0000
> >
> >I thought the issue was that Sid sold a car with the
> >exact vin. How did this guy get a title? If I were the
> >guy that bought the car from Sid I would be worried that
> >the Mystery Roadster fellow would show up with a title
> >and demand the car be turned over to him. On the flip
> >side, he could take a trip down to Florida and pick up a
> >free Mystery Roadster.
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >BTW- Roadsters took 1st, 2nd, and 4th on Sunday at the
> >local autocross. I got second. Mike Steinbach got 1st
> >in his beautifully restored solex 68, and his brother
> >got 4th. We beat a couple of RX7's, an IT prepared MR2,
> >a V6 Fiero, a Cortina on slicks, and a nice E30 M3. The
> >Cortina was reclassed, but we beat him anyway.
> > > The reality of the situation with this car is that the title is
a good
> > > title. I have NEVER had anyone want to check the vin on the
car - even
> >on
> > > cars that were from out of state. If they do check the vin, I
bet that
> >they
> > > will pop the hood and look at the vin tag - not the frame. If
they do,
> >the
> > > buyer of this car is home free. If you get someone who is very
thorough
> >and
> > > KNOWS ROADSTERS, then you may have an issue.
> > >
> > > I doubt that the new owner will have problems transferring the
title.
> > >
> > > Sidney Raper
> > > 1964 1500
> > > 1967 SRL311 00060
> > > 1967 SRL311 00076
> > > Jacksonville Florida
> > > http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: L Jordan <ay107@lafn.org>
> > > >Reply-To: L Jordan <ay107@lafn.org>
> > > >To: Eric Frisbee <efris@home.com>
> > > >CC: datsun roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > > >Subject: Re: Mystery Roadster back on eBay
> > > >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:53:41 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I think the point is that if you buy a car thinking you have
clear
> >title
> > > >but
> > > >then find out you have to jump thru hoops to get it registered
then
> >that is
> > > >a
> > > >hassle. Yes, caveat empor, but i think if this is too easy to
do then
> >I
> > > >think
> > > >you will see more cars (Roadsters) being stolen and
"rearranged" and
> >sold.
> > > >Perhaps the guy should be able to prove the car wasn't stolen
upfront.
> >But
> > > >sounds like he doesn't want the hassle, just wants the buyer to
have
> >it.
> > > >Well
> > > >that's the car business isn't it?
> > > >Linda
> > > >
> > > >Eric Frisbee wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Did anyone notice that the paint codes weren't exactly
Nissan
> >either??
> > > >OH
> > > > > MY GOD!! Call the FBI, CIA, and the White House!!!! We
have a
> >serious
> > > > > crime here! And those rims are from an evil "Z" car...
This
> >calls
> > > >for a
> > > > > lynching!!!! And the non-original black dash... and the
seats..
> >and
> > > >the
> > > > > steering wheel... and the 1500 grill...the missing jackhole
> >covers...
> > > >and
> > > > > the missing 1600 emblems!! Where is the humanity of it
all???
> >The ID
> > > > > plate is all ratty and matches up with the title, yet the
engine
> >number
> > > >is
> > > > > grossly misrepresented! That just can't be!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ok funs over... If you jokers knew just how many "pieced
> >together"
> > > >cars
> > > > > were really out there, you'd wet yourselfs calling the DMV
in all
> >the
> > > > > states... This was and is common practice for those of us
who live
> >East
> > > >of
> > > > > California... . We are all so much luckier now to have
access to
> >the
> > > >many
> > > > > great venders, as you Westerners have had for years. Get
over
> >your
> > > > > hysteria already!
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > > (and yes, I have a car that the numbers don't match... am I
next to
> >be
> > > > > lynched?)
> > > >
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