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Subject: Fwd: rich idle, lean running...SU Needles
From: Keith0alan@aol.com
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 09:43:03 EDT
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In a message dated 8/7/00 7:15:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
jschmi7@us.ibm.com writes:

<< I still have interest in the answers that are being looked into regarding
 the mixture issue and using British needles but here is a reply I got from
 Tom on the subject a couple years ago.
 
 John Schmitt    Telecommuter Office # - 847-458-7829
    Internal phonemail only  -  847-240-4725      pager pin#  800-759-8888
 pin 8710561
  >>

Hello all,

    Still working the problem. I am now on the second British SU needle, ADN. 
Getting better but still no cigar. Back to the charts today and order number 
three. The one I kind of like the looks of may have to come out of England. 
If I find a really good one that is not available in the U.S. and there is 
some interest, I'll order a batch and distribute them.

                                  keith0alan@aol.com

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I still have interest in the answers that are being looked into regarding
the mixture issue and using British needles but here is a reply I got from
Tom on the subject a couple years ago.

John Schmitt    Telecommuter Office # - 847-458-7829
   Internal phonemail only  -  847-240-4725      pager pin#  800-759-8888
pin 8710561

---------------------- Forwarded by John Schmitt/Schaumburg/IBM on
08/07/2000 08:26 AM ---------------------------

walter@omni.sps.mot.com on 02/13/98 10:12:48 AM

Please respond to walter@omni.sps.mot.com @ internet

To:   John Schmitt/Schaumburg/IBM@ibmus
cc:
Subject:  Re: rich idle, lean running...


John,

To some extent the roadsters typically run rich at idle.

You can get some relief by going to the earlier carb needles
for the SU's (i.e. from a '67). Yes, '68 - '70 2000's were
set to run richer, to allow for a more complete "after buring"
by the air injection system.

Need to do some research on other common SU needles to see
what we might come up with.

I've used the "stoich point" oxygen sensor... but with a roadster
you should always be running RICH.  Forget those fancy display
models that attempt to tell you what a/f ratio you are running.

Alas, the "wideband" oxygen sensors are wideband in the LEAN
region, not the rich region (where we tend to fun).


Hmm... Embedded Systems Conference is in Chicago from March 31-April 2.
I'll either be there, or the show in May (London).... choices, choices.
<grin> [I like both places... just wonder which is colder at that time
of year!].

Cheers,

Tom

P.S. Darn, almost got it though... planning a evaluation lab in
Detriot. Fully equiped with an engine/chassis dyno. Yes, a Motorola
lab to check prototype hardware. Looks like the budget got chopped...
wonder if I can get an engine stand adapted for the U20 made up.
<grin> Hey, got to have a little fun with this job. ;-)


>
>To all,  Is that true of all SU 2L roadsters?  I have always had a rich
>condition, black soot in the exhaust and on the plugs, causing a smell at
>idle.  My engine is new/rebuilt and the exhaust is not a oil problem.  Is
there
>something I can do to cure this condition?   It has to be a polutant as
well as
>just plain unpleasant!





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