Andy,
You're probably right, but those lawyers (sorry, I work at a Law Firm -
corporate though) will sue everybody and anybody.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Murphy <solex67@hotmail.com>
To: <bitterrootprop@nidlink.com>
Cc: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: Roc liability
> Mike,
>
> As a founding member of SoCalROC, I can tell you that you are not in any
> danger of legal action until you actually get organization status. There
is
> no NOWROC as far as the legal system is concerned. You are just a bunch of
> people getting together to drive your cars.
>
> If someone got into an accident with a member on the run, the legal issue
> would be between the two parties involved. NOWROC is not sponsoring the
> event legally. Unless you actually incoporate and solicit membership dues
> and such, you cannot be held liable for an incident on a public highway.
> When you do incorporate, talk to your lawyer about liablility insurance
and
> build the premium costs into your dues.
>
> Anyone wishing to join would have to sign a release in order to join.
>
> SoCalROC has not made any plans to incorporate. Every time we have a run,
> people refer to me as the "President" of the club. Something I discourage.
I
> just want to get together with my buds and go for a drive. Nowroc may want
> to incorporate and that is fine, just make sure that the liablility
> insurance is bought when you do.
>
> FWIW
>
> Andrew Murphy
> Non-president of SoCalROC
>
>
> >From: Mike Poorboy <bitterrootprop@nidlink.com>
> >Reply-To: Mike Poorboy <bitterrootprop@nidlink.com>
> >To: "datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Roc liability
> >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:01:18 -0700
> >
> >ROC organizers and list,
> >I have a concern, I have tried not to use the NOWROC name to promote
> >outings where driving is to be one of the functions. It did slip by me
> >on the
> >Whidbey Ride that was organized by some one else.
> >
> >I was concerned when I saw a post to the NOWROC mailing list by one of
> >our members for a Seattle event in July. I wasn't notified of the event
> >until
> >I saw the post. The person involved was unaware that there was a problem
> >
> >with using the name without permission. After an explanation by me the
> >person
> >was very apologetic. I have been trying to get the members to show up at
> >already established events, and if they wanted local evening or weekend
> >drives
> >on there own.
> >
> >The problem is liability, since NOWROC is a club that was started by a
> >couple of us, and is based on the internet so far. There is no money or
> >officers and
> >especially no insurance. We are trying to raise money by most of the
> >usual
> >ways. Shirt and sticker sales and the like. We have not voted in any
> >official
> >officers and we don't have a not for profit tax exemption yet. It just
> >takes time and since there was basically two of us doing most of the
> >work
> >that part is not done yet.
> >
> >What are the other clubs using for the liability insurance ? I was going
> >to call Haggerty and Parish and see what they had to offer. I am
> >concerned over
> >someone getting hurt during a road outing and being sued. It is not the
> >club members that I am worried about, but an outsider that could come
> >after
> >people with in the club.
> >
> >Open to all information, ideas and flames.
> >
> >Mike
> >Founder of NOWROC
> >Hayden Lake, Idaho
> >
> >
>
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