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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of PATRICK P.
> CASTRONOVO
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 September, 1999 04:58
> To: Alan Bent; Jim Tyler
> Cc: roadster list
> Subject: Re: butt-ugly dashes-Fan the Flames
>
>
> Is'nt a bonnet something a WOMAN wears ?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Bent <ajb@squirrel.com.au>
> To: Jim Tyler <jtyler29@idt.net>
> Cc: roadster list <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 4:46 AM
> Subject: Re: butt-ugly dashes-Fan the Flames
>
>
> >This reply is a little late, but I thought I'd send it anyway.
> I've been in
> hospital for a while, but I'm out now and back in near roadworthy
> condition
> again. It was nice to get back online and find that I had over
> 150 messages
> to read from you guys.
> >So, in reply to a few past comments -
> >1/ I am not related to the Crocodile hunter guy on TV, but he does live
> just a few miles down the road from me. (Yes, he is completely mad. And he
> owns a Leyland)
> >2/ Yes, the engine of my car is under the "bonnet", not the
> "hood". Isn't a
> "hood" an undesirable person that prowls the streets of your cities after
> dark?
> >3/ You better not be picking on my Cedric! You must be jealous,
> you have no
> doubt heard stories about the awesome performance and handling
> characteristics of the legendery Cedric. This is a car that came second in
> it's class in the 1963 Japanese grand prix, beaten only by a Toyota Crown!
> (the
> >Cedric had 4 "Oh S#@!" handles and needs every one of them.)
> >4/With regards to your comment "obviously he needs professional
> help!", my
> wife would like to point out that anyone that owns more than 10
> old Datsuns
> is actually beyond Professional help.
> >5/ I am disgusted that you would use the "L" word (Leyland) on
> this mailing
> list. There may be impressionable young children reading this
> list that are
> now deeply emotionally scarred after reading such offensive language.
> >6/ I hope everyone is sending money to the "Save Steve" fund so
> he can come
> to Australia and uphold the honour of the American High Screen Owners. I
> pledge 2c to Steve's fund, I'd love to see him come down here.
> We'll see how
> long his plastic dash lasts in an Australian summer. :-)
> > Speaking of ugly dashes, a few years ago I saw a 65/66 SP311 that was
> fitted with a 240Z dash. Now that looked really stupid.
> >Alan Bent (still far from serious)
> >1966 Fairlady SP311 - "An automotive work of art"
> >1965 Silvia CSP311 - "Too good for Americans"
> >1966 Fairlady SP311 - "Has shiny chrome headlight surrounds, not daggy
> dull ones like high screen ones"
> >1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310 - "50% more seating than a high screen car"
> >1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310 - "Proudly wearing it's Nippondenso
> file draw
> handle"
> >1964 Cedric Wagon WP31 - "Power to weight ratio of 62.7hp/1000kg, better
> than a Hummer"
> >1963 Bluebird P312 - "60hp of tarmac tearing power"
> >1963 Bluebird P312
> >1963 Cedric P31
> >1964 Cedric Wagon
> >1969 Super Six G130
> >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/3823/index.html
> >
> >
> >Jim Tyler wrote:
> >
> >> These are obviously the rantings of one who has taken leave of his
> senses. Just look at that
> >> list of cars--obviously he needs professional help!
> >>
> >> So blaspemous are some of these remarks that I suggest we may
> have a spy
> from the Leyland
> >> list amongst us. You sir, when you check the oil in your
> Datsun (if you
> really have one) do
> >> you lift the Hood or the Bonnet?
> >>
> >> 1)Elephant ears??? What did you want smaller flares that a 64? I don't
> think that could be done with 60's automotive technology. Remember they
> hadn't invented micro machining then!
> >>
> >> 2)Surely you can't really despise a roadster with a padded roll bar???
> If so, you had better trade in that
> >> firebreathing 1500 on something with a J12. That 1500 is obviously
> making more power than you can deal with....
> >>
> >> 3) From these comments I would have to bet Ralph Nader was also an
> incognito Aussie. You aren't related to that Crocodile Hunter guy on TV
> are you? (or should I call it a Tele?) Serious Looney tunes.
> >>
> >> And You Sir, when you refer to Mr. Shelby, please use
> Reverend, Sir, or
> His Lordship Mr. Shelby.
> >>
> >> "A LOW SCREEN OR NO SCREEN" indeed. Isn't this the same thing?
> >>
> >> I would suggest Mr. Bent, if that is your real name, that you
> say a few
> prayers of forgiveness
> >> to the Car Guys before you nod off tonight. Good Aye...
> >>
> >> Jim (tongue way in cheek) Tyler
> >>
> >> 70 1600
> >> 69 2L
> >> 68 2L x 2
> >> 67.5 1600
> >> 66 1600
> >> 65 1500 3 seat (the ugly one) I think I'll part it out
> just to watch
> it die! Just Kidding.
> >> 91 300ZX A great car even if it doesn't have roadster personality
> >> 98 Chevrolet (Hallowed be thy name) Tahoe Mommy Mobile
> >>
> >> Obviously also in need of professional help!
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> From: Alan Bent[SMTP:ajb@squirrel.com.au]
> >> Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 10:23 AM
> >> To: Jim Tyler
> >> Cc: a roadster list
> >> Subject: Re: butt-ugly dashes-Fan the Flames
> >>
> >> Over here when the common people (high screen owners) aren't around we
> refer to the low screen cars as the "Classic models" and to the
> high screen
> cars as the "Plastic models".
> >> A few other points about Jim's message
> >> 1/ Those "fairly pretty fender curves" have wheel arch flares that look
> like a pair of elephant ears.
> >> 2/ A "Padded roll bar" or any roll bar, doesn't look great on
> anything. A
> roll bar looks like what it is, a bunch of pipes welded together.
> If you are
> that interested in safety, and black plastic dashes, you might find
> something more your style on this site - www.volvo.com
> >> 3/ Roadsters look "goofy" if you take the side strips off.
> >> 4/ "It sceams 'Catch me if you can...' ". No, it screams
> "Ralph Nader and
> Carroll Shelby attacked my car".
> >> One car magazine over here summed up the looks of the high screen car
> perfectly, " A sports car for giraffes".
> >> "A LOW SCREEN OR NO SCREEN"
> >> Alan Bent (also all in fun - every Roadster is a highly desirable car)
> >> 1966 Fairlady SP311 - 1965 Silvia CSP311
> >> 1966 Fairlady SP311 - 1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310
> >> 1964 Fairlady 3 seater SP310 - 1964 Cedric Wagon WP31
> >> 1963 Bluebird P312 - 1963 Bluebird P312
> >> 1963 Cedric P31 - 1964 Cedric Wagon 1964
> >> 1969 Super Six G130
> >> http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Pit/3823/index.html
> >>
> >> Jim Tyler wrote:
> >>
> >> > > I'll probably get flamed to hell for this but you guys
> with the later
> model
> >> > > roadsters have the butt ugliest looking consoles and dashboards.
> >> >
> >> > OK that will be quite enough late model dash flames...A perfect or
> "Just Dashes" redo late style
> >> > dash with a pretty set of gauges and all new knobs is a
> pretty thing to
> behold. Deep sunken gauges,
> >> > curvacious, not bad for a cheap Japanese sports car.
> >> >
> >> > Personally I think the 67.5 year dash is THE UGLY one. Dull black
> instrument rims,
> >> > the UGLY 2 instrument clusters, UGLY satined-out chrome, UGLY,DULL,
> UGLY
> >> >
> >> > The 66 dash is the pretty one, pretty gauges, pretty trim, classy
> styling.
> >> >
> >> > OH yes and the 1500 dashes, they get a close UGLY 2nd prize. Dorky
> half way funktional
> >> > (no not a typo) gauges, a giant "Oh Sh%$" handle to the right (Must
> have had a clearance
> >> > on Nippondenso file drawer handles), an afterthought
> Windshield washer
> pump stuck on the
> >> > bottom with an L bracket, A map light that look like it came from a
> marine application, and best
> >> > of all, best of all, an ASH TRAY LARGE ENOUGH TO SERVICE A WAFFLE
> HOUSE. Guy's that ain't beauty....thats butt UGLY.
> >> >
> >> > BTW for any one who hasn't driven one, that OH Sh&* handle
> was because
> of the drum brakes!!!
> >> >
> >> > They went to the 66 dash because some smart guy fired the
> designer that
> came up with all that
> >> > UGLY crap!
> >> >
> >> > Stand up for yourselves late model owners!
> >> >
> >> > And, while we are at it,
> >> >
> >> > I would have to point out that the late models are the ones that that
> look great tricked out. Lowered, 15" Panasports or American Libre's,
> Padded roll bar, take off the goofy side trim and those are fairly pretty
> fender curves. That's a Datsun Roadster. It sceams "Catch me if you
> can..."
> >> >
> >> > Do all that to a 65 and it will just look silly with those anemic
> little fender flares.
> >> >
> >> > I have a right to criticize. I have a least one of each here to
> torment me!
> >> >
> >> > Jim Tyler (All in good fun)
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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