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5.0 T-Bird as donor update

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Subject: 5.0 T-Bird as donor update
From: Phil Martin <pmartin@isgtec.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:16:21 -0400
Hi all.  I've done some research now, and here are my early findings:

        1) EFI - not a suitable donor car because the wiring harness sold by 
Ford 
Motorsport only works with a system from a 5.0 Mustang.  A 5.0 anything 
else won't work.  Don't ask me why they would be different.

        2) Transmission - the 5.0 cars only came with AOD trannies.  To get the 
5-speed (not a T-5, it's a Mazda unit), you need to get your hands on a 
Super Coupe.  The Mazda tranny is supposedly a very nice unit though (not 
suprpising) and should live behind a moderate 351 with no problems, 
especially if drag racing's not on the agenda (which it's not, in my case). 
 All that's necessary to make this swap work is the flywheel out of an '81 
or newer 351-equipped Ford truck.

        3) IRS - nothing definitive.  The rear track of the T-bird is 60.2 
inches, 
vs 56.9 for the Brick.  I don't have hub-to-hub measurements for either 
car.  I do have a friend with a T-bird though, I can probably talk him into 
getting under his car and measuring it.  Could someone whose car is handy 
make a similar measurement?  Maybe it's close enough that it could be 
managed just by specifying the right offsets with a set of custom wheels.

        4) Engine - I also asked about just using the whole Super Coupe 
drivetrain 
- that 3.8L supercharged V6 is a pretty groovy motor.  I thought that maybe 
some serious weight could be trimmed from the front by going with it 
instead of the cast-iron 351.  Doesn't look like it.  The thing does have a 
cast-iron block (I thought it was an all-aluminum engine), and the dressed 
weight is over 500lbs.  I'll just put aluminum heads & intake and some 
headers on my 351 and call it even (well, close enough - certainly not 
enough gain to be worth the incredible headache).


So, the T-bird doesn't look like the cure-all it once appeared to be, but 
that IRS still has me interested.  If it ends up being a bit too wide 
(like, say, 2" overall), would it be feasible to just move the control arm 
mount points inboard 1" on each side & get the half-shafts shortened?  Is 
there any reason to think that this would lead to a significant change in 
the suspension geometry?  Is it possible to shorten a half-shaft without 
damaging it?

I'm guessing it would be OK, since the half-shafts aren't defining any of 
the suspension geometry, and I'm not talking about changing the lengths of 
the control arms.  I don't see where real problems would arise, but that 
doesn't mean that they wouldn't.  Any thoughts, please?

Thanks,
--
Phil Martin                             pmartin@isgtec.com
"Art disappoints me when it is too little like life,
 Life disappoints me when it is too much like art."



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