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Hey Guys,
I haven't been in a lot of contact with you BMCUer's since the VTR =20
meet in Breckenridge.......which was wonderful incidentally!! Your =20
last e-mail concerning overtorqued frazmatazas reminded me of the =20
Transentabulator Transmission piece on YouTube. Search for the =20
Transentabulator video and sit back and enjoy. It is priceless for =20
those of us who have endured many equally insane technical briefings. =20=
The engineer in the video deserves at least one academy award for Best =20=
Actor in a feature production. How he managed to get through this =20
thing without falling apart is beyond belief. If you haven't seen =20
it........Google it immediately.
Cheers....from South of the Tortilla Curtain to those of you still =20
trapped behind the Zion Curtain..
Peter Gerity
On Oct 19, 2011, at 12:40 PM, sirraymond wrote:
> For my "theory" I propose either a dead cat in the consolidation =20
> spigot or an overtorqued
> frazmataz.
>
> From: Ron Christensen <ron.christensen@wsapr.com>
> To: Richard Sanders <juricube@comcast.net>; DUFF LAWSON =
<duff_lawson@msn.com=20
> >
> Cc: bmcu <bmcu@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: MGB Owner Needs Help
>
> What????!!!! =93Gap settings can change on one as you adjust the =20
> next.=94 ???? Not!
>
> From: bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:bmcu-=20
> bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Sanders
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:24 PM
> To: DUFF LAWSON
> Cc: bmcu
> Subject: Re: [Bmcu] FW: MGB Owner Needs Help
>
> this is a longshot, but the symptoms might support it. Have you =20
> considered that the gap on one of the exhaust valves is too wide? =20
> Gap settings can change on one as you adjust the next. The reason =20
> I'm thinking about this is your comment about the start then stall =20
> and also the miss and especially the backfire out the carb. An =20
> overgapped exhaust valve would cause chamber pressure on one =20
> cylinder to build up and burp back out into the intake manifold as =20
> other cylinders are trying to inhale. If this theory is correct then =20=
> that would interfere with the mixture going into other cylinders =20
> causing no fire or intermittent firing. It could also explain the =20
> backfire out the carb if the exhaust valve is not opening until well =20=
> after the moment of combustion on the overgapped cylinder.
>
> Just a theory and not advice, for sure as I'm a fellow tinkerer.
>
> Rich Sanders
> BMCU expat currently serving time with Minnesota Triumphs
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 18, 2011, at 9:49 AM, DUFF LAWSON <duff_lawson@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:45:35 -0700
> From: sabner@yahoo.com
> Subject: MGB Owner Needs Help
> To: duff_lawson@msn.com
> Hey Duff, would you please forward this to team? I'm having =20
> problems with my MGBGT, and I'm totally out of ideas. Let me =20
> recap: My MG hasn't been driven much this year due to health =20
> problems (mine), and when I took it in for inspection and emissions =20=
> testing, it failed the idle part of the test, too much HC. Now when =20=
> I fired it up to take it for testing in August, it fired right up =20
> and ran great. I'm thinking maybe I didn't get it warmed up well =20
> enough before they put the probe in tail pipe. But recently, as my =20=
> physical problems have abated, I've replace the spark plugs, one at =20=
> a time, changed the oil and filter, checked the timing and adjusted =20=
> the valves. After all that, it did start briefly, but immediately =20
> died. After much cranking it restarted, but it had ahuge miss and =20
> backfire. I checked that I still ahd correct firing order and =20
> distributor rotation, and all of that is okay. I replaced the coil, =20=
> and now I get a strong blue spark that will jump a 3/8" gap from the =20=
> spark plug end of all the spark plug wires, so the spark is good. I =20=
> checked spark through my new spark plugs, and it was yellow and =20
> feeble, so I bought some more (better) spark plugs. But it still =20
> won't start. It does get an occasional pop back through the carbs. =20=
> I'm out of ideas; does someone have a suggestion? Now that my =20
> health is returning, I'm going back to work and I need the car for =20
> my daily driver. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know =20=
> at sabner@yahoo.com.
> Thank you very much in advance, I appreciate any suggestions.
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-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hey Guys,<div><br></div><div>I =
haven't been in a lot of contact with you BMCUer's since the VTR meet in =
Breckenridge.......which was wonderful incidentally!! Your last e-mail =
concerning overtorqued frazmatazas reminded me of the Transentabulator =
Transmission piece on YouTube. Search for the Transentabulator video and =
sit back and enjoy. It is priceless for those of us who have endured =
many equally insane technical briefings. The engineer in the video =
deserves at least one academy award for Best Actor in a feature =
production. How he managed to get through this thing without falling =
apart is beyond belief. If you haven't seen it........Google it =
immediately.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers....from South of the =
Tortilla Curtain to those of you still trapped behind the Zion =
Curtain..</div><div><br></div><div>Peter Gerity<br><div><div>On Oct 19, =
2011, at 12:40 PM, sirraymond wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div =
style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:verdana, =
helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span =
style=3D"RIGHT: auto">For my "theory" I propose either a<var =
id=3D"yui-ie-cursor"></var> dead cat in the consolidation spigot or an =
overtorqued</span></div> <div style=3D"RIGHT: auto"><span style=3D"RIGHT: =
auto">frazmataz.</span></div> <div><br></div> <div style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: =
verdana, helvetica, sans-serif; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <div =
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readonly=3D"true" contenteditable=3D"false"></div><b><span =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</span></b> Ron Christensen <<a =
href=3D"mailto:ron.christensen@wsapr.com";>ron.christensen@wsapr.com</a>>=
;<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> Richard Sanders =
<<a href=3D"mailto:juricube@comcast.net";>juricube@comcast.net</a>>; =
DUFF LAWSON <<a =
href=3D"mailto:duff_lawson@msn.com";>duff_lawson@msn.com</a>><br><b><spa=
n style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</span></b> bmcu <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bmcu@autox.team.net";>bmcu@autox.team.net</a>><br><b><spa=
n style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, October 19, =
2011 9:28 AM<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> =
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class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt">What????!!!! =93Gap settings can change on one as =
you adjust the next.=94 ???? Not!</span></div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; =
FONT-SIZE: 11pt"> </span></div> <div> <div style=3D"BORDER-BOTTOM: =
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bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net [<a =
href=3D"mailto:bmcu-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:bmcu-bounces@autox.team=
.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Richard Sanders<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, =
October 18, 2011 8:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> DUFF LAWSON<br><b>Cc:</b> =
bmcu<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Bmcu] FW: MGB Owner Needs =
Help</span></div></div></div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"> </div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal">this is a longshot, but the symptoms =
might support it. Have you considered that the gap on one of the exhaust =
valves is too wide? Gap settings can change on one as you adjust the =
next. The reason I'm thinking about this is your comment about the start =
then stall and also the miss and especially the backfire out the carb. =
An overgapped exhaust valve would cause chamber pressure on one cylinder =
to build up and burp back out into the intake manifold as other =
cylinders are trying to inhale. If this theory is correct then that =
would interfere with the mixture going into other cylinders causing no =
fire or intermittent firing. It could also explain the backfire out the =
carb if the exhaust valve is not opening until well after the moment of =
combustion on the overgapped cylinder. </div></div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"> </div></div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal">Just a theory and not advice, for sure =
as I'm a fellow tinkerer.</div></div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"> </div></div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal">Rich Sanders </div></div> <div> =
<div class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal">BMCU expat currently serving time =
with Minnesota Triumphs</div></div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"> </div></div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"> </div></div> <div> <div =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"><br>Sent from my iPad</div></div> <div> =
<div style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"><br>On=
Oct 18, 2011, at 9:49 AM, DUFF LAWSON <<a =
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ymailto=3D"mailto:duff_lawson@msn.com";>duff_lawson@msn.com</a>> =
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12pt" class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal">Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:45:35 =
-0700<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:sabner@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:sabner@yahoo.com";>sabner@yahoo.com</a><br>Subject: MGB =
Owner Needs Help<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:duff_lawson@msn.com"; =
rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:duff_lawson@msn.com";>duff_lawson@msn.com</a></div> =
<div> <div> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND: white" =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: black">Hey Duff, =
would you please forward this to team? I'm having problems with my =
MGBGT, and I'm totally out of ideas. Let me recap: My MG =
hasn't been driven much this year due to health problems (mine), and =
when I took it in for inspection and emissions testing, it failed the =
idle part of the test, too much HC. Now when I fired it up to take =
it for testing in August, it fired right up and ran great. I'm =
thinking maybe I didn't get it warmed up well enough before they put the =
probe in tail pipe. But recently, as my physical problems have =
abated, I've replace the spark plugs, one at a time, changed the oil and =
filter, checked the timing and adjusted the valves. After all =
that, it did start briefly, but immediately died. After much =
cranking it restarted, but it had ahuge miss and backfire. I =
checked that I still ahd correct firing order and distributor rotation, =
and all of that is okay. I replaced the coil, and now I get a =
strong blue spark that will jump a 3/8" gap from the spark plug end of =
all the spark plug wires, so the spark is good. I checked spark =
through my new spark plugs, and it was yellow and feeble, so I bought =
some more (better) spark plugs. But it still won't start. It =
does get an occasional pop back through the carbs. I'm out of =
ideas; does someone have a suggestion? Now that my health is =
returning, I'm going back to work and I need the car for my daily =
driver. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know at <a =
href=3D"mailto:sabner@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:sabner@yahoo.com";>sabner@yahoo.com</a>.</span></div></di=
v> <div> <div style=3D"BACKGROUND: white" =
class=3D"yiv1047037791MsoNormal"><span style=3D"COLOR: black">Thank you =
very much in advance, I appreciate any =
suggestions.</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote> =
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