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Subject: Re: [Bmcu] Fw: Fw: Fw: can't install inverted oil filter on my MGB
From: Donald Lawrence <donlawrence@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2011 22:37:47 -0600
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Bill- I am not 100% on this but I beleive it is 3/8" UNF or in other words =
3/8-27TPH. I beleive there is supposed to be a copper washer Between the bo=
lt and housing. A quadring between the housing and the block=2C in a cavity=
 around the circumference. Perhaps someone else in the club knows better? J=
ust what I recall=2C but I have been away from the MG's along time until no=
w. I would remove the adapter and inspect it carefully. Then reseal it. Goo=
d Luck! I think you are on the right track.
=20
Kind regards=2C

Donald W. Lawrence
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To: Bmcu@autox.team.net
Date: Sat=2C 2 Jul 2011 20:18:04 -0600
From: paengineers@juno.com
Subject: [Bmcu] Fw: Fw: Fw: can't install inverted oil filter on my MGB



Once more=2C Hi agaain
        The oil filter leak.  It is the oil filter seal.  I tightened up th=
e extention to motor bracket holding bolt.  Took about 1/4 turn with the sa=
me socket used to take out the oil plug.  Leak was the same.  Cleaned thing=
s up=2C got a mirror=2C got a good light on it=2C yep the oil was comming o=
ut between the filter and the mount.  tried tightening=2C tried on off seve=
ral tiimes=2C still leaked.  I think the engine attachment is cross threade=
d.  And their may not be enough thread.  So I plan to chase the thread.  An=
d I am looking for some 1/4 inch thick rubber to make a big washer.  It sur=
e can leak a gusher. Up to a qauart from the time it takes to walk around t=
he car after reaching in and starting it=2C looking at it with a mirror=2C =
walking back and turning it off.   Anyone know the actual threar size.  Sur=
ely it is metric=2C dang                  Bill   Sat eve July 2
=20
=20
=20
Have you checked the bolt that holds the filter housing to the block.  It i=
s one large bolt that often works itself loose =96 you may need to change t=
hat o ring between the block and the filter housing =96 not the oil filter =
or its seal."  He confirms what I am now thinking.  His remark also explain=
s the structure.  So my next move is the check how tight that bolt is.  I j=
ust need to get ready to get dirty again.=20
                                                        Thasnks=2C  Bill   =
            Sat morning July 2=2C 2011
Hi again=2C
        In changing the oil in my MGB=2C it is not the filter seal of the i=
nverted oil filter that is leaking.  Oil is running out directly underneart=
h in a 1/4" + dia stream as the engine iddles.  I have changed the oil filt=
er seal to an O-Ring=2C initally held in the grove with grease.  Last night=
 I was working in the dark with a flash light.  I have had the car up with =
a jack=2C I will raise it again and see if I can inspect the underside of t=
he Oil Filter mount.
                                          Thanks for all suggestions=2C    =
I may have to replace the filter mount.  I am hopeing a plug has fallen out=
=2C Just crossing my fingers.  I don't know the details=2C but on the inter=
net a Moss Oil Filter SPIN-ON type INVERTED MOUNT MGB & GT 1970-on Moss# 95=
0-000 $8.50=2C   is at sales@classicautospares.us  .  Victoria Secret's pri=
ce is $290.00
                                                                           =
     Bill =20
=20
Hi=2C
        I am attempting to chang the oil in my 72 MGB=2C I have four quarts
of oil (covered with sawdust) on my concrete driveway=2C I can't get the
inverted filter to seal=2C or did I  break the mount getting the old filter
off.  I first tryde a Phram PF8A Ford filder=2C thread and seal seamed to
match=2C but it leaked.  Now I have a NAPA Gold Wix 1068.  The first time I
tried to install it the seal apparently fell out of the groove before it
contacted.  I have tried it several times since.  It still is leaking
profusley.  Have I busted something=2C or is it a trick to put the filter
on?  Do I need to chase the thread on the car mount?  Or do I need to use
a torque wrench?  The surface on the seal plate does not look very good.=20
Should I change out the seal on the filter with and O-Ring?  Anybody
tried that?  If it that seal that is not working=2C I think the O-Ring idea
might be good.
=20
                                                        Bill Peterson
                                                        68 W Malvern (2625 =
S)
                                                        So SLC Ut 84115
                                                        Tei 801-487-0786=20

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Bill- I am not 100% on this but I beleive it is 3/8" UNF or in other words =
3/8-27TPH. I beleive there is supposed to be a copper washer Between the bo=
lt and housing. A quadring between the housing and the block=2C in a cavity=
 around the circumference. Perhaps someone else in the club knows better? J=
ust what I recall=2C but I have been away from&nbsp=3Bthe MG's along time u=
ntil now.&nbsp=3BI would remove the adapter and inspect it carefully. Then =
reseal it.&nbsp=3BGood Luck! I think you are on the right track.<BR>
&nbsp=3B<BR>
Kind regards=2C<BR>
<BR>Donald W. Lawrence<BR>&nbsp=3B<BR>
<DIV>

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To: Bmcu@autox.team.net<BR>Date: Sat=2C 2 Jul 2011 20:18:04 -0600<BR>From: =
paengineers@juno.com<BR>Subject: [Bmcu] Fw: Fw: Fw: can't install inverted =
oil filter on my MGB<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Once more=2C Hi agaain</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B The oil filte=
r leak.&nbsp=3B It is the oil filter seal.&nbsp=3B I tightened up the exten=
tion to motor bracket holding bolt.&nbsp=3B Took about 1/4 turn with the sa=
me socket used to take out the oil plug.&nbsp=3B Leak was the same.&nbsp=3B=
 Cleaned things up=2C got a mirror=2C got a good light on it=2C yep the oil=
 was comming out between the filter and the mount.&nbsp=3B tried tightening=
=2C tried on off several tiimes=2C still leaked.&nbsp=3B I think the engine=
 attachment is cross threaded.&nbsp=3B And their may not be enough thread.&=
nbsp=3B So I plan to chase the thread.&nbsp=3B And I am looking for some 1/=
4 inch thick rubber to make a big washer.&nbsp=3B It sure can leak a gusher=
. Up to a qauart from the time it takes to walk around the car after reachi=
ng in and starting it=2C looking at it with a mirror=2C walking back and tu=
rning it off.&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3BAnyone know the actual threar size.&nb=
sp=3B Surely it is metric=2C dang&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&n=
bsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=
=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B Bill&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B Sat eve July 2</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>Have you checked the bolt that holds the filter housing to the block.&=
nbsp=3B It is one large bolt that often works itself loose =96 you may need=
 to change that o ring between the block and the filter housing =96 not the=
 oil filter or its seal."&nbsp=3B <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt=3B FONT-FA=
MILY: 'Times New Roman'"><FONT color=3D#000000>He confirms what I am now th=
inking.&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3BHis remark also explains the structure.&nbsp=3B So m=
y next move is the check how tight that bolt is.&nbsp=3B I just need to get=
 ready to get dirty again.&nbsp=3B</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B Thasnks=2C&nbsp=3B Bill&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B=
&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nb=
sp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B Sat morning July 2=2C 2011</DIV>
<DIV>Hi again=2C</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B In changing t=
he oil in my MGB=2C it is not the filter seal of the inverted oil filter th=
at is leaking.&nbsp=3B Oil is running out directly undernearth in a 1/4" + =
dia stream as the engine iddles.&nbsp=3B I have changed the oil filter seal=
 to an O-Ring=2C initally held in the grove with grease.&nbsp=3B Last night=
 I was working in the dark with a flash light.&nbsp=3B I have had the car u=
p with a jack=2C I will raise it again and see if I can inspect the undersi=
de of the Oil Filter mount.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=
=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B=
&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nb=
sp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=
=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3BThanks for all suggestions=2C&nb=
sp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B I may have to replace the filter mount.&nbsp=3B I am =
hopeing a plug has fallen out=2C Just crossing my fingers.&nbsp=3B I don't =
know the details=2C but on the internet a Moss <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12=
pt=3B FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'">Oil Filter SPIN-ON type INVERTED MOUN=
T MGB &amp=3B GT 1970-on Moss# 950-000 $8.50=2C<SPAN>&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B</SPAN=
><SPAN>&nbsp=3Bis at <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt=3B FONT-FAMILY: 'Times =
New Roman'"><A href=3D"mailto:sales@classicautospares.us";>sales@classicauto=
spares.us</A>&nbsp=3B<SPAN>&nbsp=3B.&nbsp=3B Victoria Secret's price&nbsp=
=3Bis $290.00</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
<DIV>Hi=2C<BR>&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B&nbsp=3B I am=
 attempting to chang the oil in my 72 MGB=2C I have four quarts<BR>of oil (=
covered with sawdust) on my concrete driveway=2C I can't get the<BR>inverte=
d filter to seal=2C or did I&nbsp=3B break the mount getting the old filter=
<BR>off.&nbsp=3B I first tryde a Phram PF8A Ford filder=2C thread and seal =
seamed to<BR>match=2C but it leaked.&nbsp=3B Now I have a NAPA Gold Wix 106=
8.&nbsp=3B The first time I<BR>tried to install it the seal apparently fell=
 out of the groove before it<BR>contacted.&nbsp=3B I have tried it several =
times since.&nbsp=3B It still is leaking<BR>profusley.&nbsp=3B Have I buste=
d something=2C or is it a trick to put the filter<BR>on?&nbsp=3B Do I need =
to chase the thread on the car mount?&nbsp=3B Or do I need to use<BR>a torq=
ue wrench?&nbsp=3B The surface on the seal plate does not look very good. <=
BR>Should I change out the seal on the filter with and O-Ring?&nbsp=3B Anyb=
ody<BR>tried that?&nbsp=3B If it that seal that is not working=2C I think t=
he O-Ring idea<BR>might be good.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp=3B</DIV>
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