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Re: poll: RX-8 or 350Z?

To: "John J. Stimson-III" <john@harlie.idsfa.net>, <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: poll: RX-8 or 350Z?
From: "James Creasy" <james@thevenom.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 10:51:34 -0700
i rode in guy's 350Z at atwater a month or so ago.  it seemed to work fine,
although it looked like he was having trouble with it- when it would step
out it would just kinda keep going if he stayed in it.

hmm funny about the power thing in the rx-8.

> the throttle harder to modulate?

throttle, you mean the "gas switch"?

thanks for the tips.

james
OSP - Only Short Power

----- Original Message -----
From: "John J. Stimson-III" <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: poll: RX-8 or 350Z?


> I think that the RX-8 does a far better job of being a "plain old
> street car".  The 350Z is hard to see out of, has what would otherwise
> be useful cargo space bisected by an ugly plastic covered rear strut
> brace, and of course has only two seats.
>
> For autocross, the 350Z has plenty of torque but a big issue with
> understeer.  The RX-8 has specifications and traits that seem similar
> to the S2000 (247 HP, ~2900 Lbs, low-torque 9000RPM engine) although
> it probably won't be quite as fast due to the weight and likely softer
> suspension.  Unless the rumored factory camber kit comes through for
> the 350Z, I don't think either will be a class-winner, but I'd
> probably pick the RX-8 as more likely to be fun.  Note that I haven't
> driven either car in an autocross environment so these are my best
> guesses.  You can probably guess too, but you asked for opinions...
>
> Pat Salerno and Guy Ankeny both put up their 350Z track models up for
> sale after setting them up for autocross and running them for a
> while.  I think you can still buy Guy's.  He's asking for $36k fully
> set up with A.R.E. tuned double adjustable Penskes and upgraded front
> swaybar.  RX-8s are available for MSRP, which is $27,200 for the
> non-sunroof 6-speed version.
>
> One other issue with the RX-8 is that new owners are dyno testing
> their low-mileage cars and coming up way short on horsepower.  The
> popular explanation (though by no means confirmed by Mazda) is that
> the engine computer runs the fuel mixture extra rich at high RPM until
> the engine is broken in.  One person who measured the air/fuel mixture
> while on the dyno confirmed that the fuel mixture is enriched at high
> RPM...so the question is, when does the computer unleash the beast?
>
> James, would a 1000hp engine do anything for the Cobra other than make
> the throttle harder to modulate?
>
> On Wed, Aug 06, 2003 at 05:50:02PM -0700, James Creasy wrote:
> > for a plain old ordinary street car.
> >
> > any glimmers if one or the other might be a decent stock autocrosser?
> >
> > choice C, no new car, but a 1000hp motor for the cobra.
> >
> > james
>
> --
>
> john@idsfa.net                                              John Stimson
> http://www.idsfa.net/~john/                              HMC Physics '94

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