Pat,
You are missing my point! Whether we buy transponders, or rent them, or pay
for some other "convenience" things to make the sport we love more
enjoyable, that's a choice we freely make. The cost of the sport is known.
You either chose to participate or you don't. Nobody forced people to show
up at TH. Nobody asked them to pay for something they didn't know about
ahead of time. If in the future a rental of transponders is necessary, I am
sure it will be stated ahead of time.
Why so much hostility against time trials?! I don't understand why autoxers
don't like road racers. But then again, I don't understand why Raider fans
hate Niners either. It's just one of those things.
--Navid
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pat Kelly [mailto:lollipop487@attbi.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:19 PM
> To: Navid Kahangi; 'john f. kelly jr.'; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Thunderhill report?
>
>
> This is a double reply, first to the value of my head
> (referencing your
> earlier post), and the costs involved. Transponders are neat
> and make T&S
> far more accurate. I was being facetious when I said I like
> to spend my $$
> on things things that make the car go fast, but am reluctant
> otherwise. A
> helmet is a necessary safety feature, as are suits, gloves,
> fire systems,
> etc.; a transponder is a convenience for T&S, and for the
> drivers as the
> times recorded will definitely be theirs and not someone else's. Too
> different aspects of competition: safety vs. accuracy.
> John's point about the cost was, I'm sure, not to raise that old issue
> again, but to point out transponders are not free. If a club
> gives them to
> drivers, that club must still purchase them, thus they are a
> cost that must
> be covered, probably by raised entry fees, and that sort of thing.
> The rental solution as Ralph reports makes sense. I'm sure there are
> maintenance costs of some sort.
> --Pat Kelly
> ----------
> >From: Navid Kahangi <navid@interwoven.com>
> >To: "'John F. Kelly Jr.'" <76067.1750@compuserve.com>,
> ba-autox@autox.team.net, Pat Kelly <lollipop487@attbi.com>
> >Subject: RE: Thunderhill report?
> >Date: Tue, Dec 18, 2001, 4:21 PM
> >
>
> >John,
> >
> >I really don't want to open up another discussion on cost of
> motorsports. I
> >also think that we are all old enough to decide what we want
> to spend our
> >money on and if we wanted financial advice we would not seek
> it on this
> >list. So, let's take this discussion to
> >ba-let-me-tell-you-what-to-spend-your-money-on list.
> >
> >--Navid
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: John F. Kelly Jr. [mailto:76067.1750@compuserve.com]
> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 3:55 PM
> >> To: ba-autox@autox.team.net; Pat Kelly; Navid Kahangi
> >> Subject: Re: Thunderhill report?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------- Begin Original Message --------------------
> >>
> >> Message text written by "Pat Kelly"
> >>
> >> " Although,
> >> >if Thunderhill is interested in continuing this program,
> they need to
> >> supply
> >> >transponders for the cars."
> >> -------------------- End Original Message --------------------
> >>
> >> RE: Transponders.
> >> I think that's another item somebody forgot to budget for. I'm sure
> >> Thunderhill can supply. It's mostly a question of money.
> >> Yours. <G> As I
> >> recall they go for about $235.
> >>
> >> --John Kelly
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