In addition, the S2000 guy had on a set of brand new Hoosiers. I was
instructing both days, and when I saw his car and heard of his (lack of)
experience, I thought, "Now, that's a recipe for disaster".
According an instructor that rode with the Subaru pilot, the guy just
would not listen to advice. I had one of those folk in an AWD turbo
Eclipse. Fortunately, he shredded a tire in a spin before he could do
any real damage (good thing, 'cause I wasn't gonna get back in the car
with him!).
Both cars didn't even have plates yet.
-jerry
Kit Wetzler wrote:
>
> Buttonwillow, not Willow Springs. He came off turn 11 (I think) and got
> 4 wheels off, he was running too low tire pressure, the tires came off
> the rim, and tossed the car over onto the driver's side.
> Driver/Passenger both fine.
>
> Another S2000 spun into a way, destroyed the rear driver's side
> suspension and axle...
>
> Both were very inexperienced drivers. I think that what gets people
> into trouble is that they try to save spins... both tried to correct...
> when you are that far off, it's imperative just to put both feet in,
> (clutch/brakes)
>
> -Kit
>
> Jerry Mouton wrote:
> >
> > OOOh! A crunched Subaru at ?Willow Springs?
> >
> > http://gpl.gamestats.com/autoXwreck.jpg
> >
> > Anybody know the story?
> >
> > Jerry Mouton mailto:jerry@moutons.org Laissez les bons temps
> > rouler!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cyril Reif" <creif@att.net>
> > To: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:32 AM
> > Subject: Fw: [mrpca] AutoX wreck photo here
> >
> > > FYI....the picture looks like it was at a road corse, not an autocross???
> > > Cyril
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Mitch Williams" <mitchwil@flash.net>
> > > To: <mrpca@egroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:25 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [mrpca] Fw: [ntpog forum] AutoX wreck photo here
> > >
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > > Nasty picture, It would make anyone worry. I've never seen anything
> > like
> > > > this in over 10 years of AXing. I've seen wheels rolling across the
> > > course
> > > > by themselves as the car grounded to a halt (sheared all 5 lugs). I've
> > > seen
> > > > pictures of a car that got caught on a guide wire for a telephone pole
> > at
> > > a
> > > > street autocross (Rabbitfest--no longer held). I've seen accidents and
> > > car
> > > > damage at road-racing events, but not at an AX.
> > > > Do you have more info on what happened just before this car rolled? We
> > > all
> > > > know that you can take ANY CAR and get going 60+ mph and jerk the
> > steering
> > > > wheel suddenly all the way to lock in one direction...either the car
> > will
> > > > spin or the outside front tire in dig in and produce a roll. The
> > higher
> > > > the center of gravity the better chance for a roll. Of course if the
> > car
> > > is
> > > > sliding and hits a curb, it could induce a roll. I'm not telling you
> > > > anything new.
> > > >
> > > > I can't remember what Subaru calls this car (Impreneza???) but it is
> > > geared
> > > > towards rally racing and has a higher center of gravity than some cars.
> > > > It's hard to say what might have happened. But bottom line, the answer
> > is
> > > > that *I* haven't seen anything like this before. Hope you can convience
> > > > your Prelude guys that this type of problem is unheard of.
> > > > Mitch
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: John <john@4x4evolution.com>
> > > > To: mrpca@egroups.com <mrpca@egroups.com>
> > > > Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:49 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [mrpca] Fw: [ntpog forum] AutoX wreck photo here
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Here is a link to the image:
> > > > >
> > > > >http://gpl.gamestats.com/autoXwreck.jpg
> > > > >
> > > > >- John O'Keefe
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: John <john@terminalreality.com>
> > > > >To: <mrpca@egroups.com>; <mrpca@egroups.com>
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:38 AM
> > > > >Subject: [mrpca] Fw: [ntpog forum] AutoX wreck photo here
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> One of the guys in the Prelude club sent this image to the Prelude
> > > list.
> > > > >To
> > > > >> me it looks like it occurred on a race track. In the background you
> > can
> > > > >see
> > > > >> what looks like Willow Springs or the streets of willow springs.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Has anyone ever seen a car roll in an autocross? The only time I have
> > > > ever
> > > > >> seen something go wrong is when a car hits a solid object that was
> > too
> > > > >close
> > > > >> to the course.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> - John O'Keefe
> > >
> > >
> > >
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