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RE: [evolution-disc.] Please comment on the August Fastrack

To: <awhollis@swbell.net>, <seb@scca.org>
Subject: RE: [evolution-disc.] Please comment on the August Fastrack
From: "Brian Fitzpatrick" <bfitz@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 09:42:08 -0500
Andy and other members of the SEB:

I didn't previously submit this to the SEB, but it was included in the
StreetTouring group discussion in response to a request from a STAC member.  I
believe it is a way to eliminate "hybrid" cars without completely removing the
UD/BD allowance.  Rewrite 17.1.B as:

----------

Equipment and/or specifications may be exchanged between different years and
models of a vehicle if:

(1) the item is standard on the year/model from which it was taken, and

(2) the years/models are listed on the same line of Appendix A (Street
Prepared Classes), and

(3) the year/model from which the item is taken is eligible for the class,
and

(4) the item is not an engine, transmission/transaxle, transfer case,
differential, or a component part of any of these units, and

(5) the item does not materially reduce the weight of the car.

The updated/backdated part or the part to which it is to be attached may not
be altered, modified, machined or otherwise changed to facilitate the
updating/backdating allowance.  Cars not listed in the Street Prepared
sections of Appendix A may not be updated/backdated until approved by the SEB
and published in SportsCar magazine.

----------

Optionally, word "materially" in item (5) could be omitted to make the rule
even more enforceable.  I borrowed it from the stock C&C rule.

This change would eliminate hybrid cars without completely restricting UD/BD.
It would typically allow "upgrades" but not "downgrades" in order to save
weight.

Brian Fitzpatrick
#75 STS - BMW 325is


________________________________

From: Andy Hollis [mailto:awhollis@swbell.net]
Sent: Wed 6/25/2003 8:41 AM
To: Eric Linnhoff; autox@autox.team.net;
evolution-discussions@yahoogroups.com; Mark Sirota
Subject: RE: [evolution-disc.] Please comment on the August Fastrack



Eric,

Please submit clear, concise, enforceable wording that will speel out what
you suggest (u/b yes, but no drivetrain).  We've tried.  You participate in
the StreetTouring Yahoo group so you know how many folks have tried and
failed.

To wit, eliminate drivetrain swaps and I can still take an 89 Civic Si, and
ud/bd every piece of lightweight trim from the base model Civic to get
almost the same result as starting with the base car and changing the
drivetrain.

I suggest that anyone who wishes to comment on this proposal spend a bit of
time looking through the recent threads on that Yahoo group (StreetTouring)
to follow some of the thought process.

--Andy

> > - Removal of 17.1.B, update/backdate allowance in ST
> ==============================================
> I understand the reason of this is to prevent the "frankenstein",
> SP-esque,
> engine-swapped cars that are showing up in Street Touring.  Specifically,
> the only CSP cars that are legal to run in Street Touring, the
> '88-'91 Honda
> Civics.

> There is absolutely no reason why a specific disallowance for engines,
> transmission, transaxles or rear ends could not be written into the Street
> Touring Update Backdate allowance. And until such time as such a rule
> disallowing drivetrain swaps in ST can be written, I submit that 17.1.B
> should remain as is.


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