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RE: S2000 ring & pinion ratio question

To: "Bradley Lamont" <lamont@mailhost.org>
Subject: RE: S2000 ring & pinion ratio question
From: "Mike Clements" <mikec@actional.com>
Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:18:20 -0700
You're right. I didn't know about the 1.16 primary reduction which is
why:

A: my original calculations were 16% off
B: I was looking for a ratio that was 16% taller (4.75)

Looks like the 4.3 or 4.44 ratio is the best way to go on this one since
they keep 2nd gear redline at 60+.

Thanks again for the info. None of the specs I looked at even mentioned
the 1.16 primary reduction ratio.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bradley Lamont [mailto:lamont@mailhost.org] 
> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2003 10:16
> To: Mike Clements
> Subject: RE: S2000 ring & pinion ratio question
> 
> 
> At 11:59 AM 4/25/2003, Mike Clements said:
> 
> >Problem is, the stock gearing still is way too tall: 80+ MPH in 2nd 
> >gear and hard to get out of the hole from a standing start.
> 
> Are we talking about the same car?  The gearing on the Honda 
> S2000 is as 
> follows:
> 
> gear    ratio   final   reducer overall Top speed
> 1       3.13    4.1     1.16    14.886  43
> 2       2.05    4.1     1.16    9.750   66
> 3       1.48    4.1     1.16    7.039   92
> 4       1.16    4.1     1.16    5.517   117
> 5       0.97    4.1     1.16    4.613   140
> 6       0.81    4.1     1.16    3.852   167
> 
> The reason it feels like it's hard to do a jack rabbit start 
> is because the 
> car has no torque off the high-RPM cam.
> 
> >The car feels
> >like it wants more gear and with a 9000 RPM redline there's 
> no reason 
> >to fear the gear.
> 
> With the stock gearing, it runs about 3000 RPMs at 60 MPH in 6th 
> gear.  Shortening it up will make highway cruising painful and will 
> increase engine wear and tear.
> 
> >I figure a 16% shorter (numericall bigger) ratio is about 
> optimal: 16% 
> >more acceleration in every gear, easier to get out of the hole, yet 
> >still able to hit 65 or so in 2nd.
> 
> You must be using the wrong ratios in your calculations.  If 
> you shorten 
> the gearing by 16%, 2nd gear will only go to 55 MPH which is 
> way too low IMHO.
> 
> Brad
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> -----------
> Bradley Lamont                           lamont@mailhost.org
> #93 BS - 2001 Honda S2000 Spa Yellow     http://www.over6racing.com

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