I used to, before you ever got involved.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-autox@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-autox@autox.team.net]On
Behalf Of Matt Murray
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 10:09 PM
Cc: autox mailing list
Subject: Rulebooks on hand & knowledge, was: Where's the disc - The
Solution...
Dave:
How many NER Solo 2 events have you "competed" in (not just
watched)?
Matt Murray
mattm@optonline.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave & Marianne Lyons" <super7@charter.net>
To: "Mark Hirt" <Mark.Hirt@attbi.com>
Cc: "Mark Hirt" <hirtmark@netscape.net>; "Mark J. Andy"
<marka@telerama.com>; "autox mailing list" <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: Where's the disc - The Solution...
> Some random thoughts.
>
> I'm from New England.
>
> While I think the "you must have a copy of the rulebook"
requirement is
> bogus, many Road Racing regions have figured out a way to make
sure that
> drivers had some understanding when they started racing, but
this does not
> happen in SOLO. Maybe it should only be a requirement if you
run in the
> Novice class? And yes, the rules change in Road Racing just as
fast as they
> do in SOLO. Caveat Emptor. The penalty in Road Racing is
pretty severe in
> terms of $$$, however.
>
> Either require EVERYONE to have a current rule book, or require
EVERYONE to
> have A rule book, or drop the requirement EVERYWHERE. Or, make
it a
> requirement at Schools of all type, Rally, SOLO and Road
Racing. (Yes, my
> region does run rally schools, e.g. a novice series.)
>
> AS far as I know, in Rally (as run locally), you are not
required to have a
> current copy of the rules, but you are required to KNOW the
current rules.
> A good rallyist will have a copy.
>
> Requiring drivers (in any type of event) to have a copy of the
rule book is
> kind of silly, because many argue that Road Racing drivers, for
example,
> cannot read. :-P (Emoticon sticking tongue out at Road Racing
drivers)
> This has been proven time after time when the supplemental
rules for an
> event clearly state that the driver must/must not do "X", and
the drivers
> simply say "Huh?".
>
> BTW, most of the Road Racing drivers I know DO buy rule books
every year,
> and follow what gets published in Fast Track religiously.
Knowing the
> latest changes can have a big impact on getting protested.
>
> I agree that where a person races should not affect the
requirement to have
> a rule book. That should be a club wide policy. Period. Same
rule for
> everybody. "If you enter a National Race, SOLO event, or
RALLY, you must
> have a current copy of the rules with you." Or, nothing (my
personal vote.)
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Hirt [mailto:Mark.Hirt@attbi.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:21 PM
> To: Dave & Marianne Lyons
> Cc: Mark Hirt; Mark J. Andy; autox mailing list
> Subject: Re: Where's the disc - The Solution...
>
>
> Many regions require that test (Chicago does not provide the
book) and
> the test I took was very easy. But that's NOT my point. A new
Solo II
> rule book comes out every year and every driver that attends
national
> events is required to have and produce one. The Road Racing GCR
also
> comes out every year yet a driver is not required to produce
one so
> most never buy one.
>
> According to an SCCA press release I just received there are
only
> 12,000 licensed Road Racing drivers in the Club. Maybe we need
to
> check how many bought the book.
>
> We as a club need to be more equitable with our membership,
just
> because someone on the road race side spends more for event
entry
> fees, tire wear etc.. does not make those of us on the Solo
side any
> less of a member.
>
> Or Does it?
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Feb 2002 20:38:27 -0500, Dave & Marianne Lyons wrote:
> >In my region, a driver's novice permit fee includes a rule
book, and we
> test
> >them on knowledge of the rule book. If you fail the test, you
fail the
> >school, and have to spend another $500 - $1000 for another
school.
> >
> >(that price is entry fee, car rental and / or wear and tear /
tires, etc.
> >About what it really costs to do a Road racing school on the
cheap.)
> >
>
>
> Mark Hirt
>
> Mark.Hirt@attbi.com
> http://home.attbi.com/~nxracer/
>
> Cannot find REALITY.SYS. Universe halted.
>
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