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To: alpines@autox.team.net, Jan Eyerman <jan.eyerman@usa.net>
Subject: SV: Good Old Lucas
From: kkj <kkj@privat.utfors.se>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 22:47:32 +0200
(Is the Eyerman fellow sarcastic?)

anyway

Maybe so, maybe so................. Bosch or Delco stuff may be better, but 
when my Lucas system does the job OK, I turn my energy into other problem 
areas. Like.......................eh........can't remember anything for the 
moment, but there are probably a problem somewhere.

Kristian J




----- Original Message ----- 
From: Jan Eyerman <jan.eyerman@usa.net>
To: kkj <kkj@privat.utfors.se>; <alpines@autox.team.net>; Jan Eyerman 
<jan.eyerman@usa.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:31 PM
Subject: Good Old Lucas


> Very interesting, I keep hearing from Europe and England about the wonderful
> Lucas electrical systems and your "live forever" coils.  For some odd reason
> Jaguar thought that it was worth their money to place big ads in US car
> magazines about 10 years ago saying "now with Bosch electrical systems". 
> Strange that they would waste their advertizing dollars telling us Americans
> that they had dropped the absolutely wonderful, reliable and well made Lucas
> electrical equipment and went over to Bosch.
> 
> Admittedly few Lucas coils manage to fail as spectacularly as my two did, most
> just produce less and less spark until in combination with the wonderfully
> effecient Lucas starters, the car won't start on cold days. 
> 
> I stand by the results of the Delco engineers- "either the people at Lucas
> don't know how to write specs or their suppliers are really ripping them off".
>  
> 
> Alot of variables enter into it-where it is mounted (heat), vibration
> (Hillmans are particularly bad here) and what materials were used in teh coil
> at teh time of manufacture.
> 
> The late sixties and early seventies were definitely bad as was the early to
> middle fifties.  
> 
> Jan Eyerman
> 1962 Minx Series IIIC Convertible (with VW 12 volt coil)
> 1973 Plymouth Cricket (with '69 Dodge coil & resistor)
> 
> 
>    
> 
> 
> 
> kkj <kkj@privat.utfors.se> wrote:
> 
> If that is true, what has happened to my Lucas coils that are still working
> after 40 years???
> 
> Kristian J
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Jan Eyerman <jan.eyerman@usa.net>
> To: Jarrid Gross <jgross@econolite.com>; Thomas Wiencek <wiencek@anl.gov>;
> <MRSMWB1@aol.com>; Alpine, Message <alpines@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 2:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [RE: engine problem?]
> 
> 
> > Lose connectors on a Lucas coil are probably the least of its problems. 
> Many
> > years ago I worked for GM and had a Lucas coil analyzed by the engineers at
> > Delco-Remy (as it was called way back then). They were astounded by the
> > extremely poor quality of the materials used.  From their analysis it was
> > obvious that a Lucas coil had a life expectancy of about 3 years or 36-40K
> > miles.  Note that this was the standard Lucas coil, it seems the Lucas High
> > Performance coil is quite a bit better. 
> > 
> > Today I replace the Lucas coils with coils for a 12 volt VW beetle
> (1967-68). 
> > 
> > 
> > Jan Eyerman
> > 1962 Hillman Minx Series IIIC Convetible
> > 1973 Plymouth Cricket
> >    
> > 
> > "Jarrid Gross" <jgross@econolite.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Tom and Michael,
> > 
> > One problem I had early on with my car was the prince of darkness coil
> > had rivit on spade temrinals, that had shaken loose to form rather
> > intermittant contacts.
> > The car would stall for seemingly no reason, then restart later as if
> > nothing was wrong at all.
> > 
> > The spade terminals were lose and moving them would let me restart it.
> > 
> > the solution was to replace the coil.
> > 
> > HTH
> > 
> > Jarrid Gross
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-alpines@autox.team.net
> > [mailto:owner-alpines@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Thomas Wiencek
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 12:55 PM
> > To: MRSMWB1@aol.com; Alpine, Message
> > Subject: RE: engine problem?
> > 
> > 
> > Can anyone help Micheal with this problem?  Please reply directly to him
> > at -
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > MRSMWB1@aol.com
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: MRSMWB1@aol.com [mailto:MRSMWB1@aol.com] 
> > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 7:33 PM
> > To: tom@sunbeamalpine.org
> > Subject: engine problem?
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > Dear Tom, 
> > This is micheal Brown from Moline Ill and Ive bought parts from you
> > before. I have some questions for you because I need help. I have a 1964
> > alpine ane the engine runs great for about five minutes and it will quit
> > running. Ive replaced all the electrical components and it still quits
> > running light I turn off the switch. There will be no electric to the
> > plugs. Could you help me with some kind of answer? Is there a ballist
> > resister on my car and where could it be? cant find one. It seems like
> > that could be my problem. Thanks  Please let me know.
> > Help!!!!!

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