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Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 engine reinstall

To: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>, "6pack@autox.team.net" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] TR6 engine reinstall
From: JONAS PAYNE <jpaynepbr@cox.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 00:29:17 +0000
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"While you are there"

I'd replace/upgrade the throttle cross rod bushings if you haven't already.=
  its a 10 minute job with the motor out, it is a truly miserable job with =
the motor in.

Triple check that freeze plugs are in place.

Save yourself a future headache and install the top starter bolt from the r=
ear side.

Pop 3 small welds equally spaced around the ring gear/flywheel to prevent t=
he starter from kicking the ring gear off - seems to happen with some regul=
arity on rebuilt motors.

Replace your TO bearing and upgrade the TO bearing lever arm/cross rod bolt=
.  they are weak and shear off regularly.

Chase all the threads on the manifold studs, same with the nuts if not new.

Take 20 minutes with a dremel and open up the intake manifold openings to m=
ore closely match the openings in the cylinder head using the gasket as a t=
emplate - they are pretty poorly matched from the factory.  This is an easy=
 job because the intake is aluminum.

Jonas
________________________________
From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Tony Drews <t=
ony@tonydrews.com>
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2024 3:26 PM
To: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@aut=
ox.team.net>; 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 engine reinstall


That can work.  The transmissions will interfere with the pressure plate un=
less the trans is like 4 inches back (maybe less), but if you get the engin=
e lined up with the trans it can go in with less clearance.

Install manifolds, and fan after engine is in.  Dizzy can be in place but i=
t's safer to have it out and the hole plugged with a rag or something.

My experience is with a TR4 not a 6, but should be applicable.

Regards, Tony

On 8/11/2024 6:40 PM, dave northrup wrote:

I=92m thinking if I move the tran back a few inches (disconnect the drivesh=
aft and tran mount),  then we can slide the tran back into the engine.



Does this make sense or am I missing something?



I=92m thinking we will install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine =
is in place.



I=92m bringing you the alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??



I=92m thinking I should add the fan after the engine is in.  it=92s brand n=
ew; don=92t want to damage it.




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I'd replace/upgrade the throttle cross rod bushings if you haven't already.=
&nbsp; its a 10 minute job with the motor out, it is a truly miserable job =
with the motor in.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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Triple check that freeze plugs are in place.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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Save yourself a future headache and install the top starter bolt from the r=
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Pop 3&nbsp;small welds equally spaced around the ring gear/flywheel to prev=
ent the starter from kicking the ring gear off - seems to happen with some =
regularity on rebuilt motors.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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Replace your TO bearing and upgrade the TO bearing lever arm/cross rod bolt=
.&nbsp; they are weak and shear off regularly.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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Chase all the threads on the manifold studs, same with the nuts if not new.=
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Take 20 minutes with a dremel and open up the intake manifold openings to m=
ore closely match the openings in the cylinder head using the gasket as a t=
emplate - they are pretty poorly matched from the factory.&nbsp; This is an=
 easy job because the intake is aluminum.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 12, 2024 3:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> dave northrup &lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt;; triumphs@autox.team.net =
&lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;; 6pack@autox.team.net &lt;6pack@autox.team.=
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<p>That can work.&nbsp; The transmissions will interfere with the pressure =
plate unless the trans is like 4 inches back (maybe less), but if you get t=
he engine lined up with the trans it can go in with less clearance.</p>
<p>Install manifolds, and fan after engine is in.&nbsp; Dizzy can be in pla=
ce but it's safer to have it out and the hole plugged with a rag or somethi=
ng.</p>
<p>My experience is with a TR4 not a 6, but should be applicable.</p>
<p>Regards, Tony<br>
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<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 8/11/2024 6:40 PM, dave northrup wrote:=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I=92m thinking if I mo=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">Does this make sense o=
r am I missing something?&nbsp;
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I=92m thinking we will=
 install the carbs and exhaust manifold after engine is in place.</span></p=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I=92m bringing you the=
 alternator, coil, dizzy, engine mounts, fan belt, ??</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black">I=92m thinking I shoul=
d add the fan after the engine is in.&nbsp; it=92s brand new; don=92t want =
to damage it.</span></p>
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