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Thanks, Dave. I=E2=80=99ll start by replacing the hazard and turn signal re=
lays
which should arrive today or tomorrow.
Bob
On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:39 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
> OK. No turn signals at all may be the hazard switch. The hazard switch
> disconnects the turn signal flasher. If those contacts are dodgy the tur=
n
> signals won't work. If the contacts for the right side are dodgy they
> won't work in the hazard mode. I'd start there.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
> To: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 6:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues
>
> Dave,
>
> Thank you for taking the time to respond. As you suggested, I metered out
> the green wires and found the one that was producing 12 volts. When I
> connected it to the one of the wires in the harness connected to the tran=
s
> back up lights, THEY WORKED!
>
> The two remaining issuers are: no turn signals, period. Hazards only flas=
h
> on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Earlier I stated that I only had turn signa=
ls on the
> drivers side, but I was mistaken). A new turn signal module and hazard
> module should arrive this weekend. Please share any other thoughts as to
> the cause(s) of these issues.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Bob Fabie
>
> On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 7:53 AM DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
>
> Here is a screen shot of the wiring to the transmission From Dan Master's
> handy wiring diagrams. As you can see, there is a green wire (fused 12
> volts) to the switch and a Green/Brown wire which feeds power from the
> switch to the lights. The Green wire should be hot anytime the key is on=
.
> The fuse that feeds it also feeds power to the heater fan, wipers, gauges=
,
> turn signals so if they work you are probably good.
>
> Turn signals: are both lights not working or is it just one? If one bulb
> is not lighting up the other bulb will not draw enough current to cause t=
he
> flasher to flash.
>
> On the other hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb sockets. The
> sockets are notoriously unreliable, especially when they get old. The
> ground connection is the usual suspect. Start there. If you have a volt
> meter check for voltage on the wires where they plug onto the sockets.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thu, Jan 27, 2022 9:09 pm
> Subject: [6pack] Two Issues
>
> Hello All,
>
> As you may know from my earlier post, by TR6 is alive and running
> beautifully following an extensive engine rebuild that ended up taking a
> few years, rather than the few months I had envisioned. Life and other
> important things interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=A6
>
> I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the final details and have encountered two i=
ssues,
> probably unrelated, that I need your help in diagnosing.
>
> First: Only my left turn signal works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=99=
t work at
> all.
>
> Second: The back-up lights don=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed a n=
ew back up light
> harness. I=E2=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram but can=E2=80=99t=
quite figure out
> how the 3 wires connect to the main harness=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors =
in the
> passenger foot well area. I can see that two of the new harness wires are
> solid green and the other has a ?red? thread. The main harness wires are
> almost impossible to discern which are solid and which has a different
> color thread.
>
> Can anyone help me sort out these issues?
>
> Thanks.
> Bob Fabie
> Fredericksburg, VA
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks, Dave. I=E2=80=99ll start by replacing the hazard =
and turn signal relays which should arrive today or tomorrow.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Bob</div><div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at=
8:39 AM DAVID MASSEY <<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com";>dave1massey=
@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal=
;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,He=
lvetica,sans-serif;color:black">
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> <font size=3D"3" sty=
le=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">OK.=C2=A0 No=
turn signals at all may be the hazard switch.=C2=A0 The hazard switch disc=
onnects the turn signal flasher.=C2=A0 If those contacts are dodgy the turn=
signals won't work.=C2=A0 If the contacts for the right side are dodgy=
they won't work in the hazard mode.=C2=A0 I'd start there.</font><=
br>
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helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black"><font size=3D"2" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,helvetica;color:rgb(0,0,0)">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: rmf3860 rmf3860 <<a href=3D"mailto:bobfabie@gmail.com"; target=3D"_=
blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">bobfabie@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: DAVID MASSEY <<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank=
" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">dave1massey@cs.com</a>><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,helvetica">6pack@autox.team.net</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:6pa=
ck@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">=
6pack@autox.team.net</a>><br>
Sent: Fri, Jan 28, 2022 6:11 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Two Issues<br>
<br>
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elvetica">
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Dave,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Thank you for taking the time to=
respond. As you suggested, I metered out the green wires and found the one=
that was producing 12 volts. When I connected it to the one of the wires i=
n the harness connected to the trans back up lights, THEY WORKED!</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">The two remaining issuers are: n=
o turn signals, period. Hazards only flash on he driver=E2=80=99s side. (Ea=
rlier I stated that I only had turn signals on the drivers side, but I was =
mistaken). A new turn signal module and hazard module should arrive this we=
ekend. Please share any other thoughts as to the cause(s) of these issues.<=
/div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Thanks again for your help.</div=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Bob Fabie</div>
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:arial,helvetica">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">On Fri, Jan 28, 2022=
at 7:53 AM DAVID MASSEY <<a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial,helvetica">dave1massey@cs.com</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"non=
e"></div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-=
left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;font-family:arial,helvetica;border-left-c=
olor:rgb(204,204,204)">
<div style=3D"font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal=
;font-stretch:normal;font-size:12pt;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial,He=
lvetica,sans-serif;color:black">
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"> <img alt=3D"" style=
=3D"font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;"></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size=3D"3" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Here is a scr=
een shot of the wiring to the transmission From Dan Master's handy wiri=
ng diagrams.=C2=A0 As you can see, there is a green wire (fused 12 volts) t=
o the switch and a Green/Brown wire which feeds power from the switch to th=
e lights.=C2=A0 The Green wire should be hot anytime the key is on.=C2=A0 T=
he fuse that feeds it also feeds power to the heater fan, wipers, gauges, t=
urn signals so if they work you are probably good.</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size=3D"3" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Turn signals:=
are both lights not working or is it just one?=C2=A0 If one bulb is not li=
ghting up the other bulb will not draw enough current to cause the flasher =
to flash.</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"><font size=3D"3" styl=
e=3D"font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,0)">On the other =
hand, it might just be the bulbs or bulb sockets.=C2=A0 The sockets are not=
oriously unreliable, especially when they get old.=C2=A0 The ground connect=
ion is the usual suspect.=C2=A0 Start there.=C2=A0 If you have a volt meter=
check for voltage on the wires where they plug onto the sockets.</font><br=
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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">As you may know from my earlier =
post, by TR6 is alive and running beautifully following an extensive engine=
rebuild that ended up taking a few years, rather than the few months I had=
envisioned. Life and other important things interfered. Imagine that=E2=80=
=A6</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">I=E2=80=99m now finishing up the=
final details and have encountered two issues, probably unrelated, that I =
need your help in diagnosing.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">First: Only my left turn signal =
works and the hazard light doesn=E2=80=99t work at all.=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Second: The back-up lights don=
=E2=80=99t work. I=E2=80=99ve installed a new back up light harness. I=E2=
=80=99ve tried to study the wiring diagram but can=E2=80=99t quite figure o=
ut how the 3 wires connect to the main harness=E2=80=99 3 bullet connectors=
in the passenger foot well area. I can see that two of the new harness wir=
es are solid green and the other has a ?red? thread. The main harness wires=
are almost impossible to discern which are solid and which has a different=
color thread.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Can anyone help me sort out thes=
e issues?</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica"><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Thanks.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Bob Fabie</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica">Fredericksburg, VA</div>
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