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To: rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Thank You Re: Clutch Set Recommendations
From: Greg Lemon <grglmn@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 16:53:24 -0500
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I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has the slave cylinder
inside the bell housing.   I don't have one, have heard many say it is a
good kit, and I am sure it is, but that particular feature gives me a
little concern.


Greg Lemon
TR250

On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf3860 <bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks to all who responded to my post, and a few follow up
> questions/comments:
>
> BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and=
 its been
> trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s been no trouble?
>
> TOM WALLING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=
=9D. Do they
> specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having installe=
d
> the kit?
>
> DICK TAYLOR: Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing=
, or some
> other combination?  Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on
> the slave?
>
> MARK BRADAKIS: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a
> second time after hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit =
or
> something else?
>
> TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alig=
nment and
> will ensure that the studs and bolts are properly in place.
>
> Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource to have.
>
> Bob Fabie
> Fredericksburg, VA
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook <tjh173@yahoo.com> wrote=
:
>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of the
>> correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hol=
d
>> the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right
>> holes.  Several of the bolts are actually "locating pins". They are a
>> specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and must go in
>> the specific proper holes.  These ensure proper alignment of the trans a=
nd
>> engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the throwout beari=
ng
>> and pressure plate.  Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts so you know you=
've
>> got the correct proper bolts, and spend time carefully ensuring you put =
the
>> right bolts in the right holes.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Tim Holbrook
>> 1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout bearings in 1999 when I was dail=
y
>> driving it)
>>
>> On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rmf3860 <
>> bobfabie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Fellow Enthusiasts,
>>
>> I know this is an old topic, but products and user experiences change
>> over time, so in the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best=
 to
>> get the group=E2=80=99s current collective wisdom.
>>
>> My current set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure
>> plate and RHP T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on th=
e
>> pressure plate fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the =
clutch
>> system.
>>
>> While idling with the clutch out, there was always a whine-which I
>> believe was the TO bearing spinning against the pressure plate=E2=80=99s=
 straight
>> fingers. The initial clutch engagement was somewhat sudden, not smooth.
>>
>> What are your experiences and recommendations?
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Bob Fabie
>> Fredericksburg, VA
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<div dir=3D"auto">I may be wrong, but I think the TRF Magic Clutch Kit has =
the slave cylinder inside the bell housing.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I don&#39;t have on=
e, have heard many say it is a good kit, and I am sure it is, but that part=
icular feature gives me a little concern.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><=
div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 18, 2021, 4:11 PM rmf3860 rmf=
3860 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bobfabie@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">bobfabie@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks to all who responded to my =
post, and a few follow up questions/comments:</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto">BERRY PRICE: You installed a LUK clutch and stated, =
=E2=80=9C=E2=80=A6and its been trouble.=E2=80=9D Did you mean it=E2=80=99s =
been no trouble?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">TOM WAL=
LING: I may be leaning toward the =E2=80=9CMagic Clutch Kit=E2=80=9D. Do th=
ey specify the brands of each component, or do you know from having install=
ed the kit?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">DICK TAYLOR:=
 Would you recommend TRF=E2=80=99s kit, just their TO bearing, or some othe=
r combination?=C2=A0 Is this the bearing that requires a counter spring on =
the slave?</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">MARK BRADAKIS=
: Great story. Too bad you had to disassemble everything a second time afte=
r hearing the crunching sounds. Do you recommend TRF kit or something else?=
</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">TIMOTHY HOLBROOK: Yes, =
I=E2=80=99m aware of the importance of proper alignment and will ensure tha=
t the studs and bolts are properly in place.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks again to all. This is a very helpful resource t=
o have.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Bob Fabie</div><=
div dir=3D"auto">Fredericksburg, VA</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 1:13 PM Timothy Holbrook &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:tjh173@yahoo.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"=
_blank">tjh173@yahoo.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail=
_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:=
1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Bob,</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Something that is VERY important is ensuring you have got all of t=
he correct bolts in place for the bell housing (that is, the bolts that hol=
d the transmission to the engine) and you put the right bolts in the right =
holes.=C2=A0 Several of the bolts are actually &quot;locating pins&quot;. T=
hey are a specific diameter with a shoulder (none-threaded portion) and mus=
t go in the specific proper holes.=C2=A0 These ensure proper alignment of t=
he trans and engine, and therefore also ensure proper alignment of the thro=
wout bearing and pressure plate.=C2=A0 Cheap insurance - buy all new bolts =
so you know you&#39;ve got the correct proper bolts, and spend time careful=
ly ensuring you put the right bolts in the right holes.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ti=
m Holbrook</div><div dir=3D"ltr">1971 TR6 (which went through 3 throwout be=
arings in 1999 when I was daily driving it)</div><div><br></div>
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553ayahoo_quoted_4584035534"><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&=
#39;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, June 17, 2021, 06:35:58 PM EDT, rmf3860 rm=
f3860 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bobfabie@gmail.com"; rel=3D"noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">bobfabie@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                </div></div></div><div><div id=3D"m_-4051704816487101162m_6=
520235588941735319m_-601245172211548772ydpd6bd553ayahoo_quoted_4584035534">=
<div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&#39;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-ser=
if;font-size:13px;color:#26282a"><div></div></div></div></div><div><div id=
=3D"m_-4051704816487101162m_6520235588941735319m_-601245172211548772ydpd6bd=
553ayahoo_quoted_4584035534"><div style=3D"font-family:&#39;Helvetica Neue&=
#39;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a"><div><div id=
=3D"m_-4051704816487101162m_6520235588941735319m_-601245172211548772ydpd6bd=
553ayiv9844700000"><div>Fellow Enthusiasts,<div><br></div><div>I know this =
is an old topic, but products and user experiences change over time, so in =
the midst of my engine/trans rebuild, I thought it best to get the group=E2=
=80=99s current collective wisdom.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>My curren=
t set up (which I intend to replace) is a Luk disc, pressure plate and RHP =
T/O bearing. The T/O bearing has left an indentation on the pressure plate =
fingers. There=E2=80=99s no more than 5,000 miles on the clutch system.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><div>While idling with the clutch out, there was al=
ways a whine-which I believe was the TO bearing spinning against the pressu=
re plate=E2=80=99s straight fingers. The initial clutch engagement was some=
what sudden, not smooth.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>What are your exper=
iences and recommendations?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.=C2=A0</div><di=
v>Bob Fabie</div><div>Fredericksburg, VA</div>
</div>
</div></div></div></div></div><div><div id=3D"m_-4051704816487101162m_65202=
35588941735319m_-601245172211548772ydpd6bd553ayahoo_quoted_4584035534"><div=
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