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Yea, I last had the steering wheel and horn push apart about 1988, been dre=
ading going back in there ever since. It only beeps when I'm really having=
fun. (haha)
I think I got my new horns from TRF, and they work, well, fine. (grin)
Sloane
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From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 12:41 PM
To: im_sloane@hotmail.com <im_sloane@hotmail.com>; 6pack@autox.team.net <6p=
ack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay
That is a good point. The horns must have a good ground, too. The relay i=
s grounded through the horn push to the steering shaft through the link wir=
e around the rubber coupling to the rack and through a ground link from the=
rack to the frame. Any issues with that chain of events will cause the pr=
oblem. Jumpering the relay will bypass all the steering column connections=
and will be a good diagnosis tool.
Check the easy stuff first.
For your self-beeping problem, it may be something as simple as the plastic=
sleeve for the bush that connects the horn push to the slip ring. That is=
no more problem to replace than pulling the horn push out, extracting the =
old bush assembly and replacing it.
Dave
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From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com>
To: 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Aug 21, 2020 12:44 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay
I'm no Dan Masters, but I've always found the most likely culprit is not ge=
tting a solid ground from the horn button, especially if it works sometimes=
, when wiggling the wheel, etc. You can connect the purple/black wire as th=
e negative end of a test light to check. All the little stuff inside the st=
eering wheel must be just right. The steering column itself must have a sol=
id ground (to send to the relay via the button). Check the ground wire that=
goes thru/around the steering column rubber coupling and the ground wire t=
hat connects to the steering gear box.
Mine 'self blows' when I'm hard cornering, which always makes my wife laug=
h. Yea, I know that problem comes from inside the wheel/button. Someday..
Sloane
69-Six
72-Spit
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From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of DAVID MASSEY <dave1=
massey@cs.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:51 PM
To: dctr6@optonline.net <dctr6@optonline.net>; 6pack@autox.team.net <6pack@=
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Subject: Re: [6pack] TR6 horn relay
I have found that the horns themselves stop working. New, Italian-mate hor=
ns are available at the local parts stores for around $10 each. But check =
them out first.
Dave
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Sent: Thu, Aug 20, 2020 1:15 pm
Subject: [6pack] TR6 horn relay
A newbie question from a 31-year 1976 TR6 owner =96 Where=92s the horn re=
lay? Horn is working only very occasionally and I figure the easiest first =
thing to look at is the contacts on the relay. I=92ve included a picture o=
f the fuse box area and a few of the relays =96 which one is the horn or is=
it somewhere else? I have Dan Master=92s book so if it=92s not the relay,=
I know where to go next. Thanks. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY
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I think I got my new horns from TRF, and they work, well, fine. (grin) =
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<div><font size=3D"3">That is a good point. The horns must have a goo=
d ground, too. The relay is grounded through the horn push to the ste=
ering shaft through the link wire around the rubber coupling to the rack an=
d through a ground link from the rack to the
frame. Any issues with that chain of events will cause the problem.&=
nbsp; Jumpering the relay will bypass all the steering column connections a=
nd will be a good diagnosis tool.
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<div><font size=3D"3">Check the easy stuff first.</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"3">For your self-beeping problem, it may be something as=
simple as the plastic sleeve for the bush that connects the horn push to t=
he slip ring. That is no more problem to replace than pulling the hor=
n push out, extracting the old bush assembly
and replacing it.</font><br>
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From: im sloane <im_sloane@hotmail.com><br>
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I'm no Dan Masters, but I've always found the most likely culprit is not ge=
tting a solid ground from the horn button, especially if it works sometimes=
, when wiggling the wheel, etc. You can connect the purple/black wire as th=
e negative end of a test light to
check. All the little stuff inside the steering wheel must be just right. =
The steering column itself must have a solid ground (to send to the relay v=
ia the button). Check the ground wire that goes thru/around the steering co=
lumn rubber coupling and the ground
wire that connects to the steering gear box. </div>
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Mine 'self blows' when I'm hard cornering, which always makes my wife=
laugh. Yea, I know that problem comes from inside the wheel/button. Someda=
y..</div>
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Sloane</div>
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69-Six</div>
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<div><font size=3D"3">I have found that the horns themselves stop working.&=
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A newbie question from a 31-year 1976 TR6 owner =96 Where=92s the ho=
rn relay? Horn is working only very occasionally and I figure the easiest f=
irst thing to look at is the contacts on the relay. I=92ve included a=
picture of the fuse box area and a few of the relays
=96 which one is the horn or is it somewhere else? I have Dan Master=
=92s book so if it=92s not the relay, I know where to go next. Thanks. =
; Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY
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