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If a new master cylinder is available, why bother with trying to rebuild an=
old one? I know that a rebuild kit is just a few dollars, but sending it o=
ff to have it rebuilt adds a lot to the cost. I have never rebuilt a maste=
r that was available new. Time is money and bent panels and paint repair a=
re too, beside being dangerous. I learned very early in my mechanic learni=
ng to renew the brake fluid at least on an annual basis. This saves compon=
ents from failure and adds long life to them. Wilwood and others make exce=
llent replacement masters for the TR3 and they are at the most $80 new. At=
this cost, it does not make sense to rebuild one. I understand the TR6 ha=
s a different style master and may be more costly.=20
Good luck for good brakes.=20
Dave H.
> On May 17, 2020 at 6:44 AM Robert Rochlin <rrochlin@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Richard,
> I sent my m/c off to a reputable (I thought ) rebuilder for a complet=
e rebuild and installed it back installed it in the TR6. As I recall it wo=
rked fine for a short time and then on day I was puling out of the garage a=
nd the brakes totally failed. The TR6 rolled int my P/U truck dented the d=
oor, and pushed in the front o the Tr6 hood. A very expensive afternoon. I =
sent the m/c back to the rebuilder as I had time to kill while the body sho=
p fixed the TR6. They rebuilt the m/c again gratis and I reinstalled it. =
After about 8 months the m/c started to fail again, but slowly=E2=80=A6 I r=
eplaced it with a new Girling and it has gone several seasons working fine =
but now I=E2=80=99m getting the slow sinking pedal. Before replacing it aga=
in I am going to replace the seals myself.
> Although I=E2=80=99ve had good luck with several rebuilt components=
including starters, carburetors, shocks, and distributers, I=E2=80=99ll n=
ever send a master cylinder to a rebuilder again.
> Best,
> Bob
>=20
>=20
> > > On May 17, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Lindsay < richar=
dolindsay@gmail.com mailto:richardolindsay@gmail.com > wrote:
> >=20
> > Hello Bob, et al.,
> >=20
> > Glad you're well. Here is south Texas we too are relaxing th=
e stay-at-home order and the older people (like me) are beginning to ventur=
e out, if still maintaining safe separation. The 'younglings' seem to think=
an All Clear has been sounded and they're back face to face. I wish them l=
uck.
> >=20
> > I have had two, fresh from the box, M/Cs fail then a third,=
working fine. I don't wish to directly name and disparage the vendor since=
they are always quite willing to make things right, but their name does gr=
ow on the 'north side of the tree'. The question I ponder and why I am writ=
ing is to ask is: How did your M/Cs fail?
> > In one of my unit's failures, fresh from the box, the front =
brake circuit worked fine (that's the one closer to the booster) but the re=
ar brake circuit would flow no fluid. The second unit would flow no fluid t=
hrough either circuit! The third M/C worked perfectly and still works great=
today!
> >=20
> > Did I get two poorly or incorrectly rebuilt cylinders? Someo=
ne in China just make mistakes? Did I do something wrong? Thus I ask: How d=
id your M/C "fail catastrophically?"
> >=20
> > -rick
> >=20
> > On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:38 AM Robert Rochlin via 6pack < 6pack@=
autox.team.net mailto:6pack@autox.team.net > wrote:
> >=20
> > > > > I hope everyone is hanging in there and doing well in=
this time of quarantine. It down=E2=80=99t look like here in Massachusett=
s the stay at home order will be completely lifted for several of more wee=
ks, but some business slowly are beginning to be be allowed to reopen.
> > > I=E2=80=99ve had a checkered history with master =
cylinders. In the past I=E2=80=99ve sent m/c off to be rebuilt by reputable=
rebuilders only to have them catastrophically fail soon after reinstallati=
on. I=E2=80=99m figuring that I can improve on that record. When I went t=
o the Buckeye Triumph site to review the rebuild process the article recomm=
ended red grease. I don=E2=80=99t have any, but I do have Volvo silicone b=
reaks grease. In the absence of red brake grease can I just apply brake fl=
uid as lubricant to do the rebuild or should i bite the bullet and get the =
red brake grease. About the only red grease I could fine was on Amazon and=
it was pretty pricey, $16.00 plus $8.00 shipping.
> > > Any advice would be appreciated.
> > > Best,
> > > Bob
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If a new master cylinder is available, why bother with trying to rebuild=
an old one? I know that a rebuild kit is just a few dollars, but sending i=
t off to have it rebuilt adds a lot to the cost. I have never rebuilt=
a master that was available new. Time is money and bent panels and p=
aint repair are too, beside being dangerous. I learned very early in =
my mechanic learning to renew the brake fluid at least on an annual basis.&=
nbsp; This saves components from failure and adds long life to them. =
Wilwood and others make excellent replacement masters for the TR3 and they =
are at the most $80 new. At this cost, it does not make sense to rebu=
ild one. I understand the TR6 has a different style master and may be=
more costly. =20
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Dave H.
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rote:=20
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I sent my m/c off to a reputable (I thought ) rebuilder for a complete =
rebuild and installed it back installed it in the TR6. As I recall it=
worked fine for a short time and then on day I was puling out of the garag=
e and the brakes totally failed. The TR6 rolled int my P/U truck dent=
ed the door, and pushed in the front o the Tr6 hood. A very expensive after=
noon. I sent the m/c back to the rebuilder as I had time to kill while the =
body shop fixed the TR6. They rebuilt the m/c again gratis and I rein=
stalled it. After about 8 months the m/c started to fail again, but s=
lowly=E2=80=A6 I replaced it with a new Girling and it has gone several sea=
sons working fine but now I=E2=80=99m getting the slow sinking pedal. Befor=
e replacing it again I am going to replace the seals myself.
</div>
<div class=3D"">
Although I=E2=80=99ve had good luck with several rebuilt co=
mponents including starters, carburetors, shocks, and distributers, I=
=E2=80=99ll never send a master cylinder to a rebuilder again.
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Best,
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Bob=20
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On May 17, 2020, at 8:58 AM, Richard Lindsay <=20
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say@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
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Hello Bob,=20
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<div class=3D"" dir=3D"auto">
Glad you're well. Here is south Texas we too are rel=
axing the stay-at-home order and the older people (like me) are beginning t=
o venture out, if still maintaining safe separation. The 'younglings' seem =
to think an=20
<em class=3D"">All Clear</em> has been sounded and they're back f=
ace to face. I wish them luck.
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I have had two, fresh from the box, M/Cs fail =
then a third, working fine. I don't wish to directly name and disparage the=
vendor since they are always quite willing to make things right, but their=
name does grow on the 'north side of the tree'. The question I ponder and =
why I am writing is to ask is: How did your M/Cs fail?
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In one of my unit's failures, fresh from the box, th=
e front brake circuit worked fine (that's the one closer to the booster) bu=
t the rear brake circuit would flow no fluid. The second unit would flow no=
fluid through either circuit! The third M/C worked perfectly and still wor=
ks great today!
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</div>
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Did I get two poorly or incorrectly rebuilt cylinder=
s? Someone in China just make mistakes? Did I do something wrong? Thus I as=
k: How did your M/C "fail catastrophically?"
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</div>-rick
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On Sun, May 17, 2020, 6:38 AM Robert Rochlin via 6pack <=20
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I hope everyone is hanging in there and doing well in this time =
of quarantine. It down=E2=80=99t look like here in Massachusetts the =
stay at home order will be completely lifted for several of more week=
s, but some business slowly are beginning to be be allowed to reopen.=20
<br class=3D""> I=E2=80=99ve had a c=
heckered history with master cylinders. In the past I=E2=80=99ve sent m/c o=
ff to be rebuilt by reputable rebuilders only to have them catastrophically=
fail soon after reinstallation. I=E2=80=99m figuring that I can impr=
ove on that record. When I went to the Buckeye Triumph site to review=
the rebuild process the article recommended red grease. I don=E2=80=
=99t have any, but I do have Volvo silicone breaks grease. In the abs=
ence of red brake grease can I just apply brake fluid as lubricant to do th=
e rebuild or should i bite the bullet and get the red brake grease. A=
bout the only red grease I could fine was on Amazon and it was pretty price=
y, $16.00 plus $8.00 shipping.=20
<br class=3D""> Any advice would be =
appreciated.=20
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