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Andrew,
Since eBay won't let you leave negative feedback, can you at least let us
know his user name? I regularly buy stuff on eBay and I would like to
avoid this guy.
Tom
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:43 PM Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <
6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Before I start the story, let me take full responsibility for my own
> stupidity. I screwed up. But the follow-up is where I think others need
> to be careful.
>
>
>
> Having bought a TR3 with a body which was beyond salvage, I have been
> looking for, and was prepared to pay good money for, a decent tub. I
> recently saw one on eBay which was advertised as being =E2=80=9Cin good
> condition=E2=80=9D. It was fairly expensive, so I emailed the seller *tw=
ice* and
> asked specifically about the extent of the rust: he replied by assuring =
me
> the car was =E2=80=9Cin great condition=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9Cminimal ru=
st=E2=80=9D. I asked for
> additional pics, but he said it was difficult as the car was at a differe=
nt
> location.
>
>
>
> After I bid and won, the seller emailed me to say I had to pick the car u=
p
> within 24 hours as he had a family commitment and would be gone for a
> week. The car was several hours away and I explained I couldn=E2=80=99t =
make it.
> He said OK, but he wanted the money immediately. I called PayPal and the=
y
> said I would lose any protection if I paid before seeing the car. So I
> called eBay and they reassured me I was covered 100% by the eBay vehicle
> protection plan (VPP). So I paid. My mistake.
>
>
>
> A week later I drove out and found a car with rust holes big enough to pu=
t
> my hand through and a passenger side with so much collision damage I doub=
t
> it could ever be restored. Oh, and the frame was bent. I told him I
> wasn=E2=80=99t going to take the car, he had misrepresented it, and I wan=
ted my
> money back. He told me tough, you paid already, it=E2=80=99s yours.
>
>
>
> I came home and called eBay only to be told the VPP only applies to cars
> less than 10 years old and that I had no recourse other than to sue the
> seller. After several sleepless nights I decided I could do without the
> stress of litigation and so I drove back out to collect the car. When I
> got there the seller told me he had sold it to someone else. Great, I
> said, give me my money. Nah, he said, you take it and I=E2=80=99ll deal =
with the
> other guy. The seller had brought a few buddies over, and so I simply
> loaded the car up and drove home.
>
>
>
> Bottom line =E2=80=93 I salvaged one replacement panel and 2 fenders, one=
of which
> is fiberglass. The car is being collected this week for a trip to the
> scrapyard.
>
>
>
> It was my fault and I accept responsibility for it. Thankfully, my lovel=
y
> wife has not given me grief and as a Christian I forgive the guy. But I
> did leave negative feedback on eBay. The EXACT words were =E2=80=9CTotal
> misrepresentation of the car. Buyers beware=E2=80=9D. It never posted. =
I called
> eBay today and was told the seller had appealed my feedback as it was
> =E2=80=9Cpejorative and threatened the future success of his business=E2=
=80=9D. As a
> result eBay had the right to remove it =E2=80=93 and they did. And they =
will not
> let me leave any negative feedback.
>
>
>
> I still love the Triumph community, but I am a little more cynical about
> mankind (which is a shame) and I am disgusted with eBay. I guess I am
> venting, but if anyone has a good TR3 tub=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Andrew Uprichard
>
> Jackson, Michigan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Andrew,<div><br></div><div>Since eBay won't let you le=
ave negative feedback, can you at least let us know his user name?=C2=A0 I =
regularly buy stuff on eBay and I would like to avoid this guy.</div><div><=
br></div><div>Tom</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
">On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:43 PM Andrew Uprichard via 6pack <<a href=3D=
"mailto:6pack@autox.team.net";>6pack@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"p=
urple"><div class=3D"m_-4044779028332325227WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif&quo=
t;">Before I start the story, let me take full responsibility for my own st=
upidity.=C2=A0 I screwed up.=C2=A0 But the follow-up is where I think other=
s need to be careful.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman","serif"">Having bought a TR3 with a bo=
dy which was beyond salvage, I have been looking for, and was prepared to p=
ay good money for, a decent tub.=C2=A0 I recently saw one on eBay which was=
advertised as being =E2=80=9Cin good condition=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 It was fair=
ly expensive, so I emailed the seller <u>twice</u> and asked specifically a=
bout the extent of the rust:=C2=A0 he replied by assuring me the car was =
=E2=80=9Cin great condition=E2=80=9D with =E2=80=9Cminimal rust=E2=80=9D.=
=C2=A0 I asked for additional pics, but he said it was difficult as the car=
was at a different location.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""=
><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
family:"Times New Roman","serif"">After I bid and won, =
the seller emailed me to say I had to pick the car up within 24 hours as he=
had a family commitment and would be gone for a week.=C2=A0 The car was se=
veral hours away and I explained I couldn=E2=80=99t make it.=C2=A0 He said =
OK, but he wanted the money immediately.=C2=A0 I called PayPal and they sai=
d I would lose any protection if I paid before seeing the car.=C2=A0 So I c=
alled eBay and they reassured me I was covered 100% by the eBay vehicle pro=
tection plan (VPP).=C2=A0 So I paid.=C2=A0 My mistake.<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman=
","serif""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif&quo=
t;">A week later I drove out and found a car with rust holes big enough to =
put my hand through and a passenger side with so much collision damage I do=
ubt=C2=A0 it could ever be restored.=C2=A0 Oh, and the frame was bent.=C2=
=A0 I told him I wasn=E2=80=99t going to take the car, he had misrepresente=
d it, and I wanted my money back.=C2=A0 He told me tough, you paid already,=
it=E2=80=99s yours.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman","serif"">I came home and called eBay o=
nly to be told the VPP only applies to cars less than 10 years old and that=
I had no recourse other than to sue the seller.=C2=A0 After several sleepl=
ess nights I decided I could do without the stress of litigation and so I d=
rove back out to collect the car.=C2=A0 When I got there the seller told me=
he had sold it to someone else.=C2=A0 Great, I said, give me my money.=C2=
=A0 Nah, he said, you take it and I=E2=80=99ll deal with the other guy.=C2=
=A0 The seller had brought a few buddies over, and so I simply loaded the c=
ar up and drove home.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Times New Roman","serif"">Bottom line =E2=80=93 I salva=
ged one replacement panel and 2 fenders, one of which is fiberglass.=C2=A0 =
The car is being collected this week for a trip to the scrapyard.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Time=
s New Roman","serif""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman",&quo=
t;serif"">It was my fault and I accept responsibility for it.=C2=A0 Th=
ankfully, my lovely wife has not given me grief and as a Christian I forgiv=
e the guy.=C2=A0 But I did leave negative feedback on eBay.=C2=A0 The EXACT=
words were =E2=80=9CTotal misrepresentation of the car.=C2=A0 Buyers bewar=
e=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 It never posted.=C2=A0 I called eBay today and was told t=
he seller had appealed my feedback as it was =E2=80=9Cpejorative and threat=
ened the future success of his business=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0 As a result eBay ha=
d the right to remove it =E2=80=93 and they did.=C2=A0 And they will not le=
t me leave any negative feedback.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif&qu=
ot;"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">I still love the =
Triumph community, but I am a little more cynical about mankind (which is a=
shame) and I am disgusted with eBay.=C2=A0 I guess I am venting, but if an=
yone has a good TR3 tub=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman&quo=
t;,"serif""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">=
Andrew Uprichard<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif"">Jackson, Mic=
higan<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-fa=
mily:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New R=
oman","serif""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif=
""><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman","serif""><u></u>=C2=
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