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I've switched fluid from DOT 3 to DOT 5 and never had a problem.
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1. Re: .75 bore clutch? (Ashford Little)
2. Re: .75 bore clutch? (alan salvatore)
3. Re: .75 bore clutch? (Dale)
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Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 16:00:54 -0400
From: Ashford Little <ralittle2@mac.com>
To: James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com>
Cc: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?
I flushed my system ten years ago for both clutch and brakes. No issues.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 13, 2015, at 3:46 PM, James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks Jim.
> I guess the brake master cylinder was the one I heard I really need to buy
> new. Good to know you clutch cylinder has been fine. I wonder if the brakes
> would hold up as well with the new fluid.
>
>
> ?Sent from my Atari 2600?
>
>> On May 13, 2015, at 12:43 PM, "Jim Jones" <jimjcmo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> For what it's worth, I went straight from DOT 3 to silicone. I replaced the
>> master cylinder because it was old, but I kept the slave. Flushed it all out
>> with silicone fluid and never had a problem in the following three years I
>> owned the car. I would stay with the .70 clutch. There was a reason it was
>> changed, but for the life of me I cannot remember. My '72 had the .75 bore
>> part. The effort seemed okay but I didn't care much for the long throw.
>>
>> Jim Jones
>> (573) 635-3557
>> Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology
>> 1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite 1
>> Jefferson City, MO 65109
>> www.jonesbeltone.com
>>
>> From: James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
>> To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM
>> Subject: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?
>>
>> I am planning on switching my brake fluid to silicone based. Which means I
>> can't use my master or clutch cylinders and need to buy new ones. (Heard the
>> seals will go bad when switching fluid types).
>> I have a 1976 model that uses a .70 bore clutch slave but see there is a .75
>> bore. Is it better? How does it change the clutch pedal feeling? Maybe a
>> longer pedal throw?
>> Advice?
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> ?Sent from my Atari 2600?
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Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 17:16:26 -0400
From: alan salvatore <alansalvy@gmail.com>
To: Btp44@aol.com
Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net, Emailtr4ron@mymts.net
Subject: Re: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?
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Worn out slave cylinder causes clutch release problems.
Worn clutch fork also. Not the master cylinder being .70.
I would stick with the.70 mc. Unless you like a heavy clutch.
Al
On May 13, 2015 4:06 PM, "Btp44--- via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> The reduction of the master cyl. bore dia. was to reduce pedal effort.
Which it did, but also reduces the stroke of the slave cyl, which can cause
clutch release problems if there is wear in the pivot points of the linkage.
> Berry
>
> In a message dated 5/13/2015 12:52:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
6pack@autox.team.net writes:
>>
>> Thanks Jim.
>> I guess the brake master cylinder was the one I heard I really need to
buy new. Good to know you clutch cylinder has been fine. I wonder if the
brakes would hold up as well with the new fluid.
>>
>>
>> ?Sent from my Atari 2600?
>>
>> On May 13, 2015, at 12:43 PM, "Jim Jones" <jimjcmo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> For what it's worth, I went straight from DOT 3 to silicone. I replaced
the master cylinder because it was old, but I kept the slave. Flushed it
all out with silicone fluid and never had a problem in the following three
years I owned the car. I would stay with the .70 clutch. There was a reason
it was changed, but for the life of me I cannot remember. My '72 had the
.75 bore part. The effort seemed okay but I didn't care much for the long
throw.
>>>
>>> Jim Jones
>>> (573) 635-3557
>>> Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology
>>> 1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite 1
>>> Jefferson City, MO 65109
>>> www.jonesbeltone.com
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
>>> To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM
>>> Subject: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?
>>>
>>> I am planning on switching my brake fluid to silicone based. Which
means I can't use my master or clutch cylinders and need to buy new ones.
(Heard the seals will go bad when switching fluid types).
>>> I have a 1976 model that uses a .70 bore clutch slave but see there is
a .75 bore. Is it better? How does it change the clutch pedal feeling?
Maybe a longer pedal throw?
>>> Advice?
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>> ?Sent from my Atari 2600?
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Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:42:16 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dale <tpdwinch@yahoo.com>
To: Ashford Little <ralittle2@mac.com>, James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com>
Cc: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?
<1418503888.1663901.1431553336907.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>
All
The answer to why it was changed is women. They complained that the clutch felt
to heavy. Did not like to have a big left leg muscle. How times have changed
with all the women going to the gym? to build up muscles now.
On the subject, I am going back to dot 3-4 from silicone. Attracted to much
water in the system after 6 mos making the clutch not fully disengaging.
Dale
From: Ashford Little via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
To: James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com>
Cc: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?
I flushed my system ten years ago for both clutch and brakes. No issues.?
Sent from my iPhone
On May 13, 2015, at 3:46 PM, James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:
Thanks Jim.?I guess the brake master cylinder was the one I heard I really need
to buy new. Good to know you clutch cylinder has been fine. I wonder if the
brakes would hold up as well with the new fluid.?
?Sent from my Atari 2600?
On May 13, 2015, at 12:43 PM, "Jim Jones" <jimjcmo@yahoo.com> wrote:
For what it's worth, I went straight from DOT 3 to silicone. I replaced the
master cylinder because it was old, but I kept the slave. Flushed it all out
with silicone fluid and never had a problem in the following three years I
owned the car. I would stay with the .70 clutch. There was a reason it was
changed, but for the life of me I cannot remember. My '72 had the .75 bore
part. The effort seemed okay but I didn't care much for the long throw.
?Jim Jones
(573) 635-3557
Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology
1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite 1
Jefferson City, MO 65109
www.jonesbeltone.com
From: James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM
Subject: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?
I am planning on switching my brake fluid to silicone based. Which means I
can't use my master or clutch cylinders and need to buy new ones. (Heard the
seals will go bad when switching fluid types).
I have a 1976 model that uses a .70 bore clutch slave but see there is a .75
bore. Is it better? How does it change the clutch pedal feeling? Maybe a longer
pedal throw?
Advice?
James
?Sent from my Atari 2600?
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ail.com><br>Cc: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net><br>Subject: Re: [6pa=
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I guess the brake master cylinder was the one I heard I really need to buy=
new. Good to know you clutch cylinder has been fine. I wonder if the brake=
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cylinder because it was old, but I kept the slave. Flushed it all out with=
silicone fluid and never had a problem in the following three years I owne=
d the car. I would stay with the .70 clutch. There was a reason it was chan=
ged, but for the life of me I cannot remember. My '72 had the .75 bore part=
. The effort seemed okay but I didn't care much for the long throw.<br>>=
> <br>>> Jim Jones <br>>> (573) 635-3557 <br>>> =
Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology <br>>> 1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite=
1 <br>>> Jefferson City, MO 65109 <br>>> www.jonesbeltone.com =
<br>>> <br>>> From: James_ via 6pack <6pack@autox.team.net&g=
t;<br>>> To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> <br>>> Sent: W=
ednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM<br>>> Subject: [6pack] .75 bore clutch=
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icone based. Which means I can't use my master or clutch cylinders and need=
to buy new ones. (Heard the seals will go bad when switching fluid types).=
<br>>> I have a 1976 model that uses a .70 bore clutch slave but see=
there is a .75 bore. Is it better? How does it change the clutch pedal fee=
ling? Maybe a longer pedal throw?<br>>> Advice?<br>>> <br>>&=
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br>Al<br>On May 13, 2015 4:06 PM, "Btp44--- via 6pack" <6pack@autox.team=
.net> wrote:<br>><br>> The reduction of the master cyl. bore dia. =
was to reduce pedal effort.<br>Which it did, but also reduces the stroke of=
the slave cyl, which can cause<br>clutch release problems if there is wear=
in the pivot points of the linkage.<br>> Berry<br>><br>> In a mes=
sage dated 5/13/2015 12:52:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,<br>6pack@autox.te=
am.net writes:<br>>><br>>> Thanks Jim.<br>>> I guess the =
brake master cylinder was the one I heard I really need to<br>buy new. Good=
to know you clutch cylinder has been fine. I wonder if the<br>brakes would=
hold up as well with the new fluid.<br>>><br>>><br>>> ?S=
ent from my Atari 2600?<br>>><br>>> On May 13, 2015, at 12:43 P=
M, "Jim Jones" <jimjcmo@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>>><br>>>>=
For what it's worth, I went straight from DOT 3 to silicone. I replaced<br=
>the master cylinder because it was old, but I kept the slave. Flushed it<b=
r>all out with silicone fluid and never had a problem in the following thre=
e<br>years I owned the car. I would stay with the .70 clutch. There was a r=
eason<br>it was changed, but for the life of me I cannot remember. My '72 h=
ad the<br>.75 bore part. The effort seemed okay but I didn't care much for =
the long<br>throw.<br>>>><br>>>> Jim Jones<br>>>>=
; (573) 635-3557<br>>>> Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiology<br>>=
;>> 1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite 1<br>>>> Jefferson City, MO 6=
5109<br>>>> www.jonesbeltone.com<br>>>><br>>>> _=
_______________________________<br>>>> From: James_ via 6pack <=
6pack@autox.team.net><br>>>> To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.ne=
t><br>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM<br>>>>=
Subject: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?<br>>>><br>>>> I am pla=
nning on switching my brake fluid to silicone based. Which<br>means I can't=
use my master or clutch cylinders and need to buy new ones.<br>(Heard the =
seals will go bad when switching fluid types).<br>>>> I have a 197=
6 model that uses a .70 bore clutch slave but see there is<br>a .75 bore. I=
s it better? How does it change the clutch pedal feeling?<br>Maybe a longer=
pedal throw?<br>>>> Advice?<br>>>><br>>>> James=
<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ?Sent from my Atari 2600?<=
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o why it was changed is women. They complained that the clutch felt to heav=
y. Did not like to have a big left leg muscle. How times have changed with =
all the women going to the gym? to build up muscles now.<br>On the subject,=
I am going back to dot 3-4 from silicone. Attracted to much water in the s=
ystem after 6 mos making the clutch not fully disengaging. <br><br>Dale<br>=
From: Ashford Little via 6pack <6pack@autox.te=
am.net><br> To: James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com> <br>Cc: 6 Pack &l=
t;6pack@autox.team.net> <br> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 4:00 PM<=
br> Subject: Re: [6pack] .75 bore clutch?<br> <br>I flushe=
d my system ten years ago for both clutch and brakes. No issues.?<br><br>Se=
nt from my iPhone<br><br><br>On May 13, 2015, at 3:46 PM, James_ via 6pack =
<6pack@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br><br><br>Thanks Jim.?I guess the =
brake master cylinder was the one I heard I really need to buy new. Good to=
know you clutch cylinder has been fine. I wonder if the brakes would hold =
up as well with the new fluid.?<br><br><br>?Sent from my Atari 2600?<br>On =
May 13, 2015, at 12:43 PM, "Jim Jones" <jimjcmo@yahoo.com> wrote:<br>=
<br><br>For what it's worth, I went straight from DOT 3 to silicone. I repl=
aced the master cylinder because it was old, but I kept the slave. Flushed =
it all out with silicone fluid and never had a problem in the following thr=
ee years I owned the car. I would stay with the .70 clutch. There was a rea=
son it was changed, but for the life of me I cannot remember. My '72 had th=
e .75 bore part. The effort seemed okay but I didn't care much for the long=
throw.<br>?Jim Jones<br>(573) 635-3557<br>Jones Beltone Hearing and Audiol=
ogy<br>1431 Southwest Blvd. Suite 1<br>Jefferson City, MO 65109<br>www.jone=
sbeltone.com<br><br> From: James_ via 6pack <6p=
ack@autox.team.net><br> To: 6 Pack <6pack@autox.team.net> <br=
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:37 PM<br> Subject: [6pack] .75 =
bore clutch?<br> <br>I am planning on switching my brake fluid =
to silicone based. Which means I can't use my master or clutch cylinders an=
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