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Re: [6pack] Painting advice

To: Tom Lofgren <tom.lofgren@stanfordalumni.org>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Painting advice
From: alan salvatore <alansalvy@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:29:36 -0500
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There's paint and then there's paint.  One place is going to paint the car
for $400-700.
The other place just the materials are $1000-1500.
Maaco is by definition a fast production facility.  They don't take off
trim, not fussy about masking off parts.
You ever open up a door and see painted door lock, painted hood springs?
Most macco jobs I've seen after a year or two have lost quite a bit of
luster. ( quality of paint ?)
They did look pretty good after just being painted.
You also have to like orange peal as they don't do color sanding.

I use a single stage with a clearcoat cocktail in the final coat; as it
duplicates the original enamel the best to me.
Its not any cheaper than a basecoat/clear.  So there can be quite a
difference in the quality of materials.
There's a big difference between apples and oranges.

Just saying.

Al

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tom Lofgren <tom.lofgren@stanfordalumni.org
> wrote:

> James,
>
> My son and I are just finishing repainting a 240Z in base coat/clear coat.
> We used Dupont Chromabase, which is a high quality paint with Nason (lower
> cost Dupont product) primers underneath.  Just the material cost was about
> $1500.  You didn't say how much Maaco was going to charge you, but I would
> be asking lots of questions if it's not at least a couple thousand.
>
> I have heard stories about good shops that have the "cheap" shop names, and
> yours could be one of them.  They are indeed all different.
>
> Good luck!
> Tom
>
> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:05 PM, James_ <jattr6@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I need a fresh paint job.
> >
> > Single stage or base coat/clear coat?
> >
> > I found a local guy who works on all sorts of classic cars. He wants to
> do
> > a
> > single stage urethane and needs several months to sand, a few rust
> repairs
> > and
> > paint.
> > $7500
> > Alternatively...
> >
> > My neighbor saw a tr4 getting painting at ... Wait for it...Maaco.
> > So I paid them a visit. They have loads of classics and newer cars they
> are
> > painting, restoring, rust repair etc. It was actually quite impressive.
> > Most
> > finished products had been delivered but a couple cars were still there.
> On
> > one such car I could see some dust specks in the paint but it was an
> > impressive job overall.
> > Now, Maaco has always been synonymous with ... Well ... Crappy work.
> > Additionally, they suggest clear coat/base coat.
> >
> > So what do folks think about which paint method and will Maaco's work
> > really
> > hold up and be good? Guess it is just paint and the important bit is the
> > prep
> > work. And gets down to the shop. One Maaco may be rubbish while the one I
> > visited my have great
> > Craftsmen.
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