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Re: [6pack] Front spring removal

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Subject: Re: [6pack] Front spring removal
From: "de Bastos, Derek" <Derek.deBastos@xmradio.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:15:50 -0400
Thanks Stan.

One more bit of info I forgot to add:  I can move, by hand, the whole
vertical and upper wishbone without moving the spring pan (there is slop
in the pivot bolt/trunnion where I can see this movement).  This tells
me all the spring tension is held entirely by the lower wishbone/spring
pan.  I do not see any hard stop, so I concluded that the shock is
holding the tension.

Also, when I loosened the top nut of the damper, the nut didn't ride up
the damper bolt, the damper bolt sunk deeper into the frame.  This makes
me further convinced that the shock is holding the spring in tension.

Normally, if it isn't the shock that is supposed to take up the spring
force, what is (i.e., what is the hard stop)?

Thanks,

Derek
'76 TR6
Laytonsville, MD


-----Original Message-----
From: Foster, Stan [mailto:stan.foster@hp.com]
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:58 PM
To: de Bastos, Derek; 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Front spring removal

Derek, assuming the upper and lower wishbones and vertical link are
still in place you should be able to remove the shock absorber and
insert the threaded bar in its place to compress the spring and allow
you to remove the bottom pan etc. I don't think the shock is holding
this assembly under tension.

The jacking up under the spring pan etc to remove the road spring is all
after the shock has been removed and the threaded bar is a safer
alternative to that part of the procedure.

Stan

-----Original Message-----
From: 6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com@autox.team.net
[mailto:6pack-bounces+stan.foster=hp.com@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of de
Bastos, Derek
Sent: Monday, September 22, 2008 2:45 PM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: [6pack] Front spring removal

Hi all,

Long time lurker, first-of-probably-many time poster.

Quick intro:  A few months ago I started doing a full frame off on my
'76 TR6, which has been sitting fallow in my garage for the past 25
years (long sad story involving a broken laygear and a poor college kid
running out of money, parts and patience but being too
stubborn/sentimental and never poor enough to make him sell the car in
pieces).

I am currently down to a bare frame except for the front suspension.  My
first question:  How do get the coil springs out?

There is no hard stop on the front like there was on the trailing arms.
It appears that the shock absorber is the only thing keeping the front
spring in tension and therefore no way (that I can see) to keep it in
tension while I remove the bits.

Bentley et. al. say to use the weight of the car and a jack under the
spring pan, but obviously my bare frame doesn't have the weight.  I have
the coil compression tool (the threaded rod and end plate) but it can't
be used with the damper in place.  Interesting that Bentley makes no
mention about keeping tension in the spring to remove the damper, just
remove a couple of bolts and you're done.  I can't see how to do that
without putting a huge spring hole in my wall (and probably me).

Any tips?

Thanks,

Derek
'76 TR6
Laytonsville, MD
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