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Re: [6pack] Alternator Output vs RPMs

To: Bob Danielson <75TR6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>,
Subject: Re: [6pack] Alternator Output vs RPMs
From: "Navarrette, Vance" <vance.navarrette@intel.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:05:32 -0700
        Bob:

        Yes, it makes sense.

        An alternator with no load on it will only require the frictional
losses + some small amount of work to keep the windings active.
        If you place a load of say, 20 amps on the alternator, you are now
demanding the original amount of work + (13v x 20a) = 260 watts. This is
roughly 1/3 HP of work (~760 W = 1 HP) that now needs to be done. This work
does not appear out of thin air, it is supplied by the motor because now it is
much harder to spin the alternator.
        The regulator is there solely to keep the voltage constant, otherwise
the faster you spin the alternator the higher the voltage would go (assuming
the load is not changing). So you should NOT see your voltmeter move very much
at all as you add or remove loads - although the engine may speed up or slow
down if it is idling.
        The other variable here is the tune of the engine. If the engine has a
hot cam, then it does not have any torque reserve at idle so a small change in
load can really slow down the idle speed. A stock cam delivers a robust torque
at idle, so you may not notice the idle speed change much when a load is
applied.
        An electric fan is the way to go, even though there is a small loss of
efficiency when converting the load to an electrical one. A mechanical fan
will spin up to 5,000 RPM, and so will draw up to two or three HP. An electric
fan will normally spin no faster than about 2,000 HP and so will draw 1/2HP or
less while operating (0 HP when not operating).

    Vance Navarrette
    Cogito Ergo Zoom
    I think, therefore I go fast

-----Original Message-----

I'm having a discussion with a TR6 friend who has a Delco 55 amp alternator
on his car like I do. He says that every time his Perma-Cool electric fan
comes on (he doesn't have a mechanical fan) he sees a 400 RPM drop (stock
mechanical tach) in engine speed. His reasoning is that when an accessory
calls for power the alternator has to work harder and, in turn, the engine
works harder.

<snip>

Does it
make sense that his RPMs would drop when his fan comes on?

Just curious.

Bob
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