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Re: release bearing (long winded)

To: nriedel@nextek.net
Subject: Re: release bearing (long winded)
From: jay_welch@juno.com
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2001 20:27:06 -0400
Hi Nelson,

I think I read that there were two B&B numbers floating around for the
pressure plate.  One was supposed to be firmer than the other.  I think
the two numbers are in my reference doc.  My brother sells industrial
bearings and he told me that RHP is a good bearing but like you, I think
the RHPs sold as release bearings are pretty weak.

By the way the site looks great.  I hope we can gather some good data.
I'll forward mine to you when I tear it down and add the LuK.

Talk to you later,
Jay


On Tue, 23 Oct 2001 18:54:53 -0400 "Nelson Riedel" <nriedel@nextek.net>
writes:
> Ryan, et al
> 
> RHP is the company or brand --- it's stamped on the bearing.  The 
> latest TRF
> TR250-TR6 catalog says they prefer to sell RHP gearbox mainshaft 
> bearings,
> implying that RHP are the good ones.   After all the crap I've heard 
> about
> RHP release bearings,  I'll think long and hard before replacing 
> those
> mainshaft bearings when I do a gearbox rebuild.
> 
> I bought three RHP release bearings a few years ago that came in a 
> LUK box.
> >From that I concluded that LUK distributes the RHP bearing.  TRF 
> sells two
> versions of the LUK clutch, the standard with the RHP bearing and 
> the
> uprated one with the Koyo bearing.
> 
> I don't believe the bearing failures are related to the type of 
> clutch.   I
> haven't yet got hold of either a LUK or a Sachs pressure plate to 
> measure
> the release force required.  Many seem to think the pressure 
> required is
> less for these clutches than for the Borg & Beck clutch.  I'm 
> skeptical at
> the moment since the Borg & Beck was supposed to be much stiffer 
> than the
> original Laycock pressure plate but when I measured a new Borg & 
> Beck
> pressure plate and a 20 year old Laycock pressure plate, I found 
> less than
> 10% difference.  Maybe the old Laycock pressure plate got stiffer 
> with age,
> but that has not been most folks experience.
> 
> Nelson Riedel
> Granville Ohio
> '68TR250, '70TR6, '76TR6
> 
> 
> | Dick, or anyone, what is RFP? Is that the part # prefix or is that 
> an
> | actual company?
> |
> | Maybe MacKay should try the LuK setup? I havent heard of anyone 
> having
> | problems with it yet...
> |
> | Ryan
> | 6/71 TR6
> |
> |
> | > MacKay---The answer to which combination of clutch to install 
> without
> | > modifications is a work in progress, so far as I'm concerned. 
> The
> | > stockRFP bearing with the Borg&Beck clutch is a crap shoot. You 
> can
> | > get one
> | > that lasts for maybe 40,000 miles or so, OR well, you know what
> | > else can
> | > transpire.
> |
> |

Thanks,
Jay Welch - Abington, MA
Member "Cape Cod British Car Club"
http://clubs.hemmings.com/capecodbritish/
1971 TR6 project, 1973 TR6 Wanting to "Drive it hard"

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